El Cid Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 "In England, young people already have to stay in school or training until they are 18." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/budget-2016-maths-lessons-could-become-compulsory-for-all-pupils-up-to-age-of-18-a6934746.html Surely there is no law compelling children to go to school until they are 18, so why do the press keep saying it? Surely the wording should be, that children will not get benefits until they are 18? Young people can work, there is no law stopping employers employing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodie Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I started working at 15 in 1978 and never signed on! I've had enough now though and looking to retire as soon as money is in order. Another 10 years and hopefully I'll have enough to call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah-Lacie Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 https://www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school "You must then do one of the following until you’re 18: stay in full-time education, eg at a college start an apprenticeship or traineeship work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training" But what if they just decide to get a full time job and not do any part time education or training? Is this one of those situations where the parents will be punished and fined if they don't? ---------- Post added 16-03-2016 at 19:27 ---------- http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-leave-education/18683 "The government has raise the participation age to 18 via the Education and Skills Act 2008, which places a legal “duty” on the pupil (not their parents) to participate in some kind of education or training. But what does that really mean? What happens to young people who refuse? Err…nothing. The government’s advice to parents reads: “The law has changed, but there will be no action taken against any young people who don’t participate. We want to encourage your child to participate because of the benefits it will bring.” " This is from 2014 though, so maybe it has changed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) "You must then do one of the following until you’re 18: stay in full-time education, eg at a college start an apprenticeship or traineeship work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training" But what if they just decide to get a full time job and not do any part time education or training? Is this one of those situations where the parents will be punished and fined if they don't? Waiting to hear from any young person in proper, full time employment at 16. Although I doubt you'll find many. Edited March 16, 2016 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 "You must then do one of the following until you’re 18: stay in full-time education, eg at a college start an apprenticeship or traineeship work or volunteer (for 20 hours or more a week) while in part-time education or training" But what if they just decide to get a full time job and not do any part time education or training? Is this one of those situations where the parents will be punished and fined if they don't? ---------- Post added 16-03-2016 at 19:27 ---------- http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-leave-education/18683 "The government has raise the participation age to 18 via the Education and Skills Act 2008, which places a legal “duty” on the pupil (not their parents) to participate in some kind of education or training. But what does that really mean? What happens to young people who refuse? Err…nothing. The government’s advice to parents reads: “The law has changed, but there will be no action taken against any young people who don’t participate. We want to encourage your child to participate because of the benefits it will bring.” " This is from 2014 though, so maybe it has changed now http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2008/25/contents In short, employers can cop for a big fine, parents for a medium fine and kids for a tiny fine. After 800 hoops have been jumped through. The main lever is the responsibility on employers to ensure that 20 hrs education/training are being done for u18s so only dodgy employers will flout ut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 In short, employers can cop for a big fine, parents for a medium fine and kids for a tiny fine. After 800 hoops have been jumped through. That is interesting; I wonder if the same type of rules were in place for the school leaving age when it was 16/17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Any attempt to improve numerical skills is a good idea. They should also make them improve their handwriting, which is a dying skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Any attempt to improve numerical skills is a good idea. They should also make them improve their handwriting, which is a dying skill. As an employer of young, old and middle- aged employees, it would be wonderful if young people were able to at least spell. A keen work ethic would be handy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Any attempt to improve numerical skills is a good idea. They should also make them improve their handwriting, which is a dying skill. So if they cannot teach them in the first 12 years of schooling, you think that one more year would help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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