mort Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 So we are clear. Posting just links is unacceptable. We expect a brief synposis of what can be found if you click the link. Posting links that lead to a paywall is also not acceptable Links to sites that break our rules on family friendly policy are also not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Try getting into Australia, they have it right - much that we could learn from them. Angel1. It looks harder to get into Canada, I watch a program about border control in Australia, Canada and the UK and we are a soft touch compared to the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Because 40% of British Muslims want sharia law. 25% of British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified. 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified. 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam". So not the majority but a significant minority. Highly dodgy numbers. Where from? Do you know any Muslims in real life? You'd probably be less OTT about them if you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Highly dodgy numbers. Where from? Do you know any Muslims in real life? You'd probably be less OTT about them if you did. From polls carried out and published on the BBC, Guardian, Telegraph, Times, You Gov, Comres, Wikipedia, and many other media sources. Edited March 27, 2016 by sutty27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 From polls carried out and published on the BBC, Guardian, Telegraph, Times, You Gov, and many other media sources. And you believe all of them I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 And you believe all of them I take it? Polls are never 100% accurate, the numbers could be lower or higher but they are usually close, there wouldn't be any polls if polls were always very wrong, but even if you half all the numbers it still substantiates the point I made that a significant minority are Islamic extremists or support Islamic extremism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 It looks harder to get into Canada, I watch a program about border control in Australia, Canada and the UK and we are a soft touch compared to the other two. Opinion formed on the basis of popular reality TV, stats without valid source, a misunderstanding of the EU and border controls and when put altogether you get a very unconvincing argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 And you believe all of them I take it? Do you believe there is something in the British air that immunises Muslims from the religious extremism that infects those living in the Muslim world? Is there a British 'light' version of Islam that I'm unaware of? Would be nice it were true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Do you believe there is something in the British air that immunises Muslims from the religious extremism that infects those living in the Muslim world? Is there a British 'light' version of Islam that I'm unaware of? Would be nice it were true. There is certainly something in the air that makes British Muslims less radical than those abroad. The percentages who believe that attacks on civilians are acceptable is markedly less here than in majority Muslim countries. So the answer to your question is yes there probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 There is certainly something in the air that makes British Muslims less radical than those abroad. The percentages who believe that attacks on civilians are acceptable is markedly less here than in majority Muslim countries. So the answer to your question is yes there probably is. But is that something about being in Britain or the fact they are a minority, its also a good reason not to let more in from the parts of the world in which it is regarded as more acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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