Bonzo77 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Trouble is, no politician can resist making comments when they should keep mouth shut and meddling when they shouldn't meddle, and I mean either main party. I must say that I do think Cameron has dug himself in to a bit of a hole by trying to play things down. He should have just said. Yes, we have benefited from it in the past. All legal, so what? End of story. He's used the "morally wrong" statement far too many times to have said something like that! He's also said that his government will do what the majority of the population want and "tackle aggressive tax avoidance schemes". Bit hypocritical to come out with a "so what" comment, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It's worth reminding people that Ian Cameron has been linked to a third offshore fund, and that there are possibly two more. These are not all based in the Bahamas. More details still emerging. Obviously each fund needs to be looked at, and also David Cameron needs to answer questions about his own links to those funds. Channel 4 news asked every cabinet minister if they had links to offshore funds. Three said no. All of the others refused to answer. Obviously they need to be gone through one by one, along with previous cabinet ministers over the last 6 years, to find out what their offshore connections are. This is of critical importance for determining how much influence there could have been on government policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It's worth reminding people that Ian Cameron has been linked to a third offshore fund, and that there are possibly two more. These are not all based in the Bahamas. More details still emerging. Obviously each fund needs to be looked at, and also David Cameron needs to answer questions about his own links to those funds. Channel 4 news asked every cabinet minister if they had links to offshore funds. Three said no. All of the others refused to answer. Obviously they need to be gone through one by one, along with previous cabinet ministers over the last 6 years, to find out what their offshore connections are. This is of critical importance for determining how much influence there could have been on government policy. http://order-order.com/2016/04/05/labours-brave-line-on-tax-dodging-donors/ Perhaps we should be asking the Labour party what influence offshore investments have on their policy now that something that was legal last week seems to be a hanging offence today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I1L2T3 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 http://order-order.com/2016/04/05/labours-brave-line-on-tax-dodging-donors/ Perhaps we should be asking the Labour party what influence offshore investments have on their policy now that something that was legal last week seems to be a hanging offence today. To be honest I think all politicians should be asked the same questions, especially those in minister or shadow minister positions where they have influence over policy. But right now let's start with the government because they have the power. It would not make any logical sense to focus on the opposition right now, although I accept your very fair point that the serious problem we have is not confined to the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Man in a privileged position takes advantage of not having to pay tax through PAYE via the help of a parasitic accountant and a loophole that needs to be closed to return the country to an even playing field where you pay more tax if you earn more! Is there a report out there that praises a young family for applying for every benefit under the sun to put a roof over their 6 children's heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 That sums it up. Man makes modest profit on investment and pays tax on it. It's not what the rabid dogs want to hear is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 To be honest I think all politicians should be asked the same questions, especially those in minister or shadow minister positions where they have influence over policy. But right now let's start with the government because they have the power. It would not make any logical sense to focus on the opposition right now, although I accept your very fair point that the serious problem we have is not confined to the Tories. Then if you think that, presumably you think that all councillors should too and whilst we're at it, by logical extension so should all public sector employers. Especially doctors. Do they have an ulterior motive to treat some people and not others? I think we should be told! :loopy: ---------- Post added 09-04-2016 at 13:22 ---------- That sums it up. Man makes modest profit on investment and pays tax on it. It's not what the rabid dogs want to hear is it? Love the way Naga munchetty is totally destroyed and barely able to ask a question. ---------- Post added 09-04-2016 at 13:30 ---------- Man in a privileged position takes advantage of not having to pay tax through PAYE via the help of a parasitic accountant and a loophole that needs to be closed to return the country to an even playing field where you pay more tax if you earn more! Is there a report out there that praises a young family for applying for every benefit under the sun to put a roof over their 6 children's heads? PAYE on investments?? Truly the comment of the ignorant. There's nothing parasitic about making investments in companies. It's a way of funding them. It's not a loophole it's a perfectly normal mundane investment. Have you even listened to the piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Then if you think that, presumably you think that all councillors should too and whilst we're at it, by logical extension so should all public sector employers. Especially doctors. Do they have an ulterior motive to treat some people and not others? I think we should be told! :loopy: If they have influence on policy re: tax and offshore finance then they are fair game at the moment. Councillors and most public sector workers wouldn't fall into that category. So you presumed wrong. Anyway, it's not about me is it. It's about Cameron and his Ministers and what they have (and perhaps crucially havent) done ---------- Post added 09-04-2016 at 13:31 ---------- That sums it up. Man makes modest profit on investment and pays tax on it. It's not what the rabid dogs want to hear is it? Things have moved on a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Then if you think that, presumably you think that all councillors should too and whilst we're at it, by logical extension so should all public sector employers. Especially doctors. Do they have an ulterior motive to treat some people and not others? I think we should be told! :loopy: ---------- Post added 09-04-2016 at 13:22 ---------- Love the way Naga munchetty is totally destroyed and barely able to ask a question. I do remember a thread on the forum about councils who lost money investing in Icelandic banks. It seems many councils had such overseas investments made with council tax money. It only came to light when they defaulted and the councils lost the lot. It didn't mention how many councils had offshore investments that hadn't gone belly up. Ah yes. Here we are.. http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=405763 Here's the FULL list: Councils who lost money by investing council taxes in Icelandic Banks. Kent County Council - £50 million Nottingham City Council - £42 million Norfolk County Council - £32.5 million Dorset County Council - £28.1 million Hertfordshire - £28 million Somerset County Council - £25 million Northumberland County Council - £23 million Surrey County Council - £20 million Hillingdon Council - £20 million Neath Port Talbot Council - £20 million Barnet Council- £27 million Westminster Council - £17 million Brent - £15 million Caerphilly County Council - £15 million. North Ayrshire - £15 million Plymouth City Council £13 million Breckland Council - £12 million Havering Council - £12.5 million West Sussex - £12.9 million Gloucestershire County Council - £12 million Cheltenham Borough Council - £11 million Lancashire County Council - £10 million Cambridge City Council - £9 million Wakefield - £9 million West Oxfordshire District Council - £9 million Wyre Forest District Council - £9 million Cheshire County Council - £8.5 million Bassetlaw District Council - £8 million Bristol City Council - £8 million Daventry District Council - £8 million Wiltshire County Council - £8 million South Lanarkshire Council - £7.5 million Derwentside District Council - £7 million North East Lincolnshire Council - £7 million West Lindsey District Council - £7 million Cherwell District Council - £6.5 million Redcar and Cleveland Council - £6 million Lancaster City Council - £6 million Canterbury City Council - £6 million Ceredigion - £5.5 million North Lincolnshire Council - £ 5.5 million Sutton Council - £5.5 million Bromley Borough Council - £5 million Stoke-on-Trent Council - £5 million Braintree District - £5 million Buckinghamshire - £5 million Cornwall County Council - £5 million Exeter City Council - £5 million Ipswich Borough Council - £5 million Oxfordshire County Council - £5 million South Ayrshire - £5 million Wokingham Borough Council - £5 million Gateshead Council - £4.5 million Oxford City Council - £4.5 million Colchester Borough Council - £4 million East Lindsey District Council - £4 million East Staffordshire Borough Council - £4 million North Wiltshire District Council - £4 million Powys Council £4 million Rotherham Council - £3.8 million Flintshire Council - £3.7 million Aylesbury District Council - £3 million East Ayrshire - £3 million North Somerset - £3 million Doncaster Council - £3 million Rhondda Cynon Taff Council - £3 million Solihull Council - £3 million Stroud - £3 million Slough Council - £2.5 million South Oxfordshire District Council - £2.5 million Wycombe District Council - £2.5 million Cotswold District Council - £2 million Gloucester City Council - £2 million Great Yarmouth - £2 million Moray Council - £2 million Newark and Sherwood District Council - £2 million South Ham District Council - £1.25 million Monmouthshire Council - £1.2 million Dover District Council - £1 million Bridgend Council - £1 million Hertsmere Borough Council - £1 million Kirklees Council - £1 million Perth and Kinross Council - £1 million Tewkesbury Council - £1 million Vale of White Horse District Council - £1 million Winchester - £1 million Sevenoaks District Council - £1 million Tonbridge and Malling Borough Council - £1 million Lewes District Council - £1 million Bracknell Forest - TBC Burnley Council - TBC Chorley Council - TBC North Ayshire - TBC Wychavon District Council - TBC Other affected bodies Transport For London - £40 million Metropolitan Police - £30 million Dorset Police Authority - £7 million Sussex Police Authority - £6.8 million West Yorkshire Police Authority - £6 million Northumbria Police Authority - £3.5 million Hertfordshire Police Authority - £3 million Gwent Police Authority - £1 million ---------- Post added 09-04-2016 at 13:34 ---------- Anyway, it's not about me is it. It's about Cameron and his Ministers and what they have (and perhaps crucially havent) done Oh right so anyone can do what they like. It's only of interest if they happen to be a member of the government. Otherwise say nothing. Edited April 9, 2016 by foxy lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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