crookedspire Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Is that the same as the "not foaming at the mouth" answer? I thought that was your thing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Well should it? No. Two thoughts... 1. What would have happened to Stefan Kiszko if we had had the death penalty at the time of his trial. If he had been executed, would such collateral damage have been acceptable. 2. Why just for the murder of a child? Is everyone else a second class citizen, not worthy of our concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookedspire Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 No. Two thoughts... 1. What would have happened to Stefan Kiszko if we had had the death penalty at the time of his trial. If he had been executed, would such collateral damage have been acceptable. 2. Why just for the murder of a child? Is everyone else a second class citizen, not worthy of our concern? Stefan Kiszko was years ago I'm on about now that might seem I'm side tracking here but science has moved on a lot. No the death plenty should not be the domain of child killers but it might go a long to stop such killings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASGOWOODS Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Your spilting hairs here. Yes if a guy regardless of age killed a child while drunk and driving he should be tired and if found guilty hanged, sames goes for you 50 year old situation . Wait for the ' do gooders' answer. I wasn't trying to catch you out, and to be honest- point 2 jumps out (for me) more than point 1. I'm on the fence regarding the death penalty because in my job i get to read through peoples forensic history, and it does make you think differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 No the death plenty should not be the domain of child killers but it might go a long to stop such killings. But that logic is flawed. When we did have the death penalty for murder it didn't stop people from killing so therefore it was ineffective. If the death penalty was a deterrent then it didn't work either otherwise there would be no need to keep hanging murders. DNA evidence cannot prove conclusively that a person did the murder despite what the TV crime dramas portray. It can only used in a court of law as additional evidence to help convict and is more useful when used to screen multiple people to prove innocence. I could quite easily take some DNA from an innocent person and place that at a crime scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 But that logic is flawed. When we did have the death penalty for murder it didn't stop people from killing so therefore it was ineffective. If the death penalty was a deterrent then it didn't work either otherwise there would be no need to keep hanging murders. DNA evidence cannot prove conclusively that a person did the murder despite what the TV crime dramas portray. It can only used in a court of law as additional evidence to help convict and is more useful when used to screen multiple people to prove innocence. I could quite easily take some DNA from an innocent person and place that at a crime scene. As could the state should so feel like it. Do you fancy SYP having the power to send someone to the gallows after a "thorough" investigation? I shudder at the thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andbreathe Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 But that logic is flawed . Crookedspire doesn't do logic, he probably would do prime TV executions though. He oozes Daily Star ignorant stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Stefan Kiszko was years ago I'm on about now that might seem I'm side tracking here but science has moved on a lot. No the death plenty should not be the domain of child killers but it might go a long to stop such killings. Science has moved on, but from what I recall it wasn't the scientific evidence that led the criminal justice system to condemn Kiszko to jail but poor procedure by the police, lies that he was a 'pervert' after exposing himself to schoolgirls. Sadly lies, inefficiency, corruption and downright malice still exist. Mind you given what happened to the poor man whilst in jail, a death sentence would have been a kindness. Edited April 9, 2016 by Mister M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Well should it? What the actual <removed> dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Do you fancy SYP having the power to send someone to the gallows after a "thorough" investigation? I shudder at the thought. So do I, especially as I am against the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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