Working full-time, fined by government for going on holiday!

[Berberis]

You are persistently ignoring the fact that we ARE talking about WORKING families.

This entire thread is about IN WORK benefits.

 

Working part-time. Are you saying there are no full time jobs for this women that would enable her not to require state benefits? Isnt that the purpose of these meetings she has failed to attend?

 

Do you think that someone working part time should be allowed to continue so if it means they cannot financially support themselves?

Edited April 26, 2016 by Berberis

[Bonzo77]

Working part-time. Are you saying there are no full time jobs for this women that would enable her not to require state benefits? Isnt that the purpose of these meetings she has failed to attend?

 

Do you think that someone working part time should be allowed to continue so if it means they cannot financially support themselves?

 

Try reading the title of the thread!

[Cyclone]

Working part-time. Are you saying there are no full time jobs for this women that would enable her not to require state benefits? Isnt that the purpose of these meetings she has failed to attend?

 

Do you think that someone working part time should be allowed to continue so if it means they cannot financially support themselves?

 

She works 30 - 40 hours a week.

 

She's entitled to take annual leave.

 

When taking it, she should not IMO be required to spend 35 hrs a week searching for jobs, as she already has one and is taking the annual leave she is legally entitled to. This time should be considered to be the same as being at work.

[Bonzo77]

An holiday is an extended period of leisure and recreation, the people that can afford it take it somewhere other than their home, the ones that can't afford it out of their own hard works can take their holiday at home which is much cheaper than flying abroad.

 

Or you can sabe every spare penny until you can afford to go away. Like I said earlier, someone's holiday fund can be from many sources. Gifts from parents, saving food coupons, taking advantage of sales and special offers. If you're working full time and you can't save for a cheap holiday once every few years, you need to be asking yourself a few questions.

[Berberis]

She works 30 - 40 hours a week.

 

She's entitled to take annual leave.

 

When taking it, she should not IMO be required to spend 35 hrs a week searching for jobs, as she already has one and is taking the annual leave she is legally entitled to. This time should be considered to be the same as being at work.

 

Its 30 hours a week on average according to the women in question. She has a zero hours contract and works more hours some weeks and less others, but suffice to say, she is a part time worker, not full time.

 

The question is, would this women be able to afford this 1 or 2 week , Spanish holiday, if she was not in receipt of these benefits. If she was, then I agree with you, the DWP should show some decorum on this subject and allow her a break, but if she is not, then why should the taxpayer foot the bill? What entitles her to a taxpayer funded holiday, while we see on an almost daily basis, different public services being cut to the bone?

 

You didn't answer my question though; "Do you think that someone working part time should be allowed to continue so if it means they cannot financially support themselves?"

[sutty27]

She works 30 - 40 hours a week.

 

She's entitled to take annual leave.

 

When taking it, she should not IMO be required to spend 35 hrs a week searching for jobs, as she already has one and is taking the annual leave she is legally entitled to. This time should be considered to be the same as being at work.

 

No one disagree with this, but if she can afford to take it abroad then she is clearly being given too much many by the tax payer.

 

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Or you can sabe every spare penny until you can afford to go away. Like I said earlier, someone's holiday fund can be from many sources. Gifts from parents, saving food coupons, taking advantage of sales and special offers. If you're working full time and you can't save for a cheap holiday once every few years, you need to be asking yourself a few questions.

 

If people in need of state support are able to save for an holiday abroad we should be asking some questions about how much they are given.

[Cyclone]

No one disagree with this, but if she can afford to take it abroad then she is clearly being given too much many by the tax payer.

 

As repeated to you multiple times already, you have no idea how the holiday was paid for.

 

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Its 30 hours a week on average according to the women in question. She has a zero hours contract and works more hours some weeks and less others, but suffice to say, she is a part time worker, not full time.

 

The question is, would this women be able to afford this 1 or 2 week , Spanish holiday, if she was not in receipt of these benefits. If she was, then I agree with you, the DWP should show some decorum on this subject and allow her a break, but if she is not, then why should the taxpayer foot the bill? What entitles her to a taxpayer funded holiday, while we see on an almost daily basis, different public services being cut to the bone?

 

You didn't answer my question though; "Do you think that someone working part time should be allowed to continue so if it means they cannot financially support themselves?"

 

Where she was physically at the time is irrelevant. She could have been on the allotment, or in Skegness or in her living room. The fact is that annual leave should be considered to be working time.

 

You also have no idea how the holiday was paid for in this instance.

 

And no, part time working should no more be an acceptable lifestyle choice than not working. But saying that doesn't magically summon up a full time job for her. Perhaps we could start by outlawing zero hours contracts though.

[sutty27]

As repeated to you multiple times already, you have no idea how the holiday was paid for.

 

Nor do you and its not relevant to the point I have made.

[Cyclone]

 

If people in need of state support are able to save for an holiday abroad we should be asking some questions about how much they are given.

 

And yet you are unable to explain how a rule that people receiving in work benefits are not allowed to save any money can be enforced.

 

And if we start another thread about financial planning, you'd probably be criticising them for having put no money aside for emergencies and unexpected expenses.

 

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Nor do you and its not relevant to the point I have made.

 

It's entirely relevant to what you keep implying about how it was paid for.

 

if she can afford to take it abroad then she is clearly being given too much many by the tax payer.

 

You don't know IF she paid for it or someone else did. And that IF that you can't answer is very relevant.

[Bonzo77]

No one disagree with this, but if she can afford to take it abroad then she is clearly being given too much many by the tax payer.

 

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If people in need of state support are able to save for an holiday abroad we should be asking some questions about how much they are given.

 

How long would be an acceptable time to save for a holiday? Doesn't matter if it is abroad or in the UK, costs can vary.

How do you know that this person hasn't saved up for several years for this holiday? Have they been given the money as a gift? You just seem to be a bitter individual. Anyone working full time can and should be able to save for a holiday, no matter how long it takes.