Cosmogenesis .

[unbeliever]

That's just another unproven idea that may or may not turn out to be correct.

 

You keep saying that about everything. I'm not the one who brought black holes into this anyway. They're irrelevant to cosmogenesis as far as I'm concerned.

 

On the other hand, this is proven:

An eternal universe would be in thermal equilibrium.

This is an unavoidable consequence of the second law of thermodynamics.

It has been understood for over 150 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_paradox

You only have to learn a little bit of 19th century physics to understand this.

Quantum mechanics and general relativity are irrelevant.

[sutty27]

They do after all have a temperature and that's what warm things do. At no point do they create "an ejection event that looks like the big bang".

 

 

 

That's just an assumption on your part, you have never seen one do it so you believe they can't do it.

 

What mechanism caused the expansion of very hot and very dense region of space in the big bang model and why can't that same mechanism cause the expansion of the very hot and very dense region of space we call black holes?

[unbeliever]

That's just an assumption on your part, you have never seen one do it so you believe they can't do it.

 

I have tested theory and maths to back up my position. You have nothing.

 

What mechanism caused the expansion of very hot and very dense region of space in the big bang model and why can't that same mechanism cause the expansion of the very hot and very dense region of space we call black holes?

 

Read this wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

[sutty27]

Natural black holes are too cold to emit protons. In a stupid amount of time (many order of magnitude longer than the current age of the universe) one might shrink enough to kick out a few. Far fewer than originally fell into it. So black holes are always a net sink of protons and therefore of hydrogen.

Anyway, randomly flinging subatomic particles into space increases entropy and doesn't help you at all.

 

 

Says who and what proof do they have.

 

What's the difference between a black hole which is a very hot and dense region of space and the very hot and very dense region of space that expanded to form what we see now?

[unbeliever]

Says who and what proof do they have.

 

What's the difference between a black hole which is a very hot and dense region of space and the very hot and very dense region of space that expanded to form what we see now?

 

Natural black holes are not very hot.

 

Read this wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

[sutty27]

You keep saying that about everything. I'm not the one who brought black holes into this anyway. They're irrelevant to cosmogenesis as far as I'm concerned.

 

 

Why are they irrelevant, they are thought to exist and the inside of a black hole is thought to be made of the same stuff as the early universe.

[unbeliever]

Why are they irrelevant, they are thought to exist and the inside of a black hole is thought to be made of the same stuff as the early universe.

 

Natural black holes are not very hot.

 

Read this wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

 

We don't have all the answers - yet - but some things are well beyond reasonable doubt.

 

An eternal universe would be in thermal equilibrium.

This is an unavoidable consequence of the second law of thermodynamics.

It has been understood for over 150 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_paradox

You only have to learn a little bit of 19th century physics to understand this.

Quantum mechanics and general relativity are irrelevant.

[sutty27]

I have tested theory and maths to back up my position. You have nothing.

 

 

No you don't you have math that relies on assumptions to make it work.

[unbeliever]

No you don't you have math that relies on assumptions to make it work.

 

Read this wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

 

We don't have all the answers - yet - but some things are well beyond reasonable doubt.

 

An eternal universe would be in thermal equilibrium.

This is an unavoidable consequence of the second law of thermodynamics.

It has been understood for over 150 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_paradox

You only have to learn a little bit of 19th century physics to understand this.

Quantum mechanics and general relativity are irrelevant.

[sutty27]

Natural black holes are not very hot.

 

 

Their temperature can't be measured so how do you know and what makes you think that they won't keep getting hotter as more material enter them?