Labour have candidates standing for election in Rotherham!

[andyofborg]

PS- UKIP aren't right wing.

 

pps oh yes they are

[tinfoilhat]

This seems to contradict your claim that UKIP is replacing Labour. UKIP is just a right-wing opposition party with a one-track mind. No party like that is going to replace Labour. It needs to broaden its politics, and therefore its membership, if it's going to get anywhere.

 

They are going to get a fair chunk of disenfranchised white working class labour voters who were sold down the river by new labour and woke up to that fact. BNP hoovered up a fair number of votes in maltby albeit temporarily. They want a voice, labour don't give them one anymore.

[LeMaquis]

UKIP are replacing Labour in many working class areas.

 

Could you list these many working class areas.

 

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PS- UKIP aren't right wing.

 

Most of the leading lights in UKIP - Wheeler, Farage, Hamilton, Helmer, Legge, Atkinson, Gill, Etheridge, Reckless, Bashir, Sylvester, Carswell, Sykes, Banks - are all former Tories. Maybe you could name a similar number who are ex-Labour.

[MikeFrank]

Could you list these many working class areas.

 

Contrary to the complacency among Labour’s campaign chiefs, until the last year – when Ukip was taking four or five Tory voters for every one Labour voter – in 2015 the Ukip share of the vote was higher in Labour-held seats than in Conservative-held ones.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/23/labour-win-working-class-voters-ukip

 

 

 

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Most of the leading lights in UKIP - Wheeler, Farage, Hamilton, Helmer, Legge, Atkinson, Gill, Etheridge, Reckless, Bashir, Sylvester, Carswell, Sykes, Banks - are all former Tories. Maybe you could name a similar number who are ex-Labour.

 

My dear boy. The parties leadership doesn't reflect the membership. If it did the Labour Party membership would all be antisemetic, IRA supporting public schoolboys...

[LeMaquis]

My dear boy. The parties leadership doesn't reflect the membership. If it did the Labour Party membership would all be antisemetic, IRA supporting public schoolboys...

 

The Guardian link is one working class area where UKIP has not replaced Labour. UKIP's leadership rules the roost. Farage hires and fires at will. He dictates policy except when Paul Sykes dictates it as a condition of his donation. And Farage went to public school. Corbyn went to a grammar school.

[MikeFrank]

The Guardian link is one working class area where UKIP has not replaced Labour. UKIP's leadership rules the roost. Farage hires and fires at will. He dictates policy except when Paul Sykes dictates it as a condition of his donation. And Farage went to public school. Corbyn went to a grammar school.

 

My dear boy. One did not say this will happen over night but it is a gradual process. Its now common knowledge that UKIP is taking votes away from Labour. Mr Farage is very popular within UKIP and of course the Labour Party aren't influenced by their biggest doners like the unions. In fact this particular doner chose the last "leader". Mr Milliband. That was a success

 

I think you will find that a large section of the Parliamentary Labour Party are public schoolboys, a much higher percentage than UKIP's MEP's.

 

Mr Corbyn wouldn't have been allowed at public school because of his lack of intelligence. This hasn't hindered his performance in the house though because he always has Bob from Milton Keys when a thought provoking question is needed.

 

Furthermore, it has been reported that if Labour is to win the next election if things stay the same in Scotland they will have to win 100 more seats in England from the tories, That aint going to happen...

Edited May 9, 2016 by MikeFrank

[LeMaquis]

I think you will find that a large section of the Parliamentary Labour Party are public schoolboys, a much higher percentage than UKIP's MEP's.

 

Mr Corbyn wouldn't have been allowed at public school because of his lack of intelligence.

 

You do realise that you've just claimed that Labour MPs are more intelligent than UKIP MEPs because the latter weren't intelligent enough to get into public school?

 

If you'd stop lying you might not post such howlers.

 

It might suit the facts more if you pointed out that 100% of UKIP MPs went to Charterhouse.

 

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Furthermore, it has been reported that if Labour is to win the next election if things stay the same in Scotland they will have to win 100 more seats in England from the tories, That aint going to happen...

 

Coming from a party with one MP you are not in a position to slate anyone for their parliamentary representation.

[MikeFrank]

You do realise that you've just claimed that Labour MPs are more intelligent than UKIP MEPs because the latter weren't intelligent enough to get into public school?

 

If you'd stop lying you might not post such howlers.

 

It might suit the facts more if you pointed out that 100% of UKIP MPs went to Charterhouse.

 

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Coming from a party with one MP you are not in a position to slate anyone for their parliamentary representation.

 

Well you have, likewise, just accepted that Mr. Corbyn isn't very intelligent as well. As the leader of a political party you would hope he was more intelligent than a mere MEP

 

And I'd sooner look to the future than be stuck in the past about current representation. Labour have to accept that their time has come, they are no longer electable. If there was a fairer electoral process UKIP would be well represented in parliament. The fact that 15% of those that voted have one MP is a bit iffy, to say the least. UKIP got more votes than Libs, Greens and SNP put together. Look how many MP's they have. It's important for more to vote UKIP, or anyone else for that matter, to protect minorities like Jews who the Labour Party seems to be intent on frightening.