World government?

[tzijlstra]

I voted yes and yes. Globalisation is irreversible and is, unlike what many believe, a force for the good. It has lifted billions around the world out of abject poverty already and is carrying on to do so. It is inevitable that at some point we are going to see the UN/WTO and other global organisations take a lead in removing restrictions in trade globally.

 

You'll also end up with many more Greece situations, as inevitably a once size fits all approach is taken to all countries which can be incompatible with their culture.

 

Greece was unable to devalue its currency because its currency was the Euro, but what would it be devaluing against? that same Euro. A global currency can act as a layer above national currencies. Before the Euro was formed all currencies in the original Eurozone were more or less linked to each other already with the DMark being the leading coin. But if the brown stuff hit the fan in France, the French government would be able to devalue the Franc against the DMark to gain breathing room.

 

I don't think it will be long before we see an accepted global currency (legal tender), it might well come from the tech-sector (advancements on BitCoins are being worked on, Paypal and Elon Musk are frequently discussing the potential of releasing an 'Internet-currency' and I think it very likely that either the EU, US or China will jump at the chance of creating it as a legal tender, linked to the Euro, Dollar or Yuan.

[MAC33]

George Bush Senior believed it was a good idea.

 

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=txukr5zgHnw

 

 

Their U.N rules will apply - I don't trust that organisation.

[JFKvsNixon]

George Bush Senior believed it was a good idea.

 

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=txukr5zgHnw

 

 

Their U.N rules will apply - I don't trust that organisation.

 

Apart from random people on Youtube, who do you trust?

[MAC33]

I trust physical evidence and honesty.

 

And my senses......and I smell a rat with this U.N / E.U thing.

[tinfoilhat]

I voted yes and yes. Globalisation is irreversible and is, unlike what many believe, a force for the good. It has lifted billions around the world out of abject poverty already and is carrying on to do so. It is inevitable that at some point we are going to see the UN/WTO and other global organisations take a lead in removing restrictions in trade globally.

 

 

 

Greece was unable to devalue its currency because its currency was the Euro, but what would it be devaluing against? that same Euro. A global currency can act as a layer above national currencies. Before the Euro was formed all currencies in the original Eurozone were more or less linked to each other already with the DMark being the leading coin. But if the brown stuff hit the fan in France, the French government would be able to devalue the Franc against the DMark to gain breathing room.

 

I don't think it will be long before we see an accepted global currency (legal tender), it might well come from the tech-sector (advancements on BitCoins are being worked on, Paypal and Elon Musk are frequently discussing the potential of releasing an 'Internet-currency' and I think it very likely that either the EU, US or China will jump at the chance of creating it as a legal tender, linked to the Euro, Dollar or Yuan.

 

There's globalisation and there's a global government. The two things couldn't be further away. There's been global trade for centuries. Global government? Not this millennia.

[flamingjimmy]

George Bush Senior believed it was a good idea.

 

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=txukr5zgHnw

 

Ha, that was brilliant, the music, the editing with the close up like those ridiculous conspiracy videos, hilarious, good find

 

Also, have you read the comments? Another level of comedy genius!

Edited May 9, 2016 by flamingjimmy

[Cyclone]

You'll also end up with many more Greece situations, as inevitably a once size fits all approach is taken to all countries which can be incompatible with their culture.

 

Is there some reason it couldn't operate as a federation in a similar way to the US, allowing for local differences and implementations of law, but with some overriding federal laws and guiding principles?

 

It works for the UK, being formed of 4 different countries, which historically had been at war on and off for centuries. The culture of a hill farming village in Wales is undoubtedly different to that of a coastal village in southern England, but they manage to operate with the same laws guiding them...

[tzijlstra]

There's globalisation and there's a global government. The two things couldn't be further away. There's been global trade for centuries. Global government? Not this millennia.

 

There is a form of global government, it was developed by the British, amongst others, during World War II. The system is slightly patchy and it is a bit of a travesty that it is HQed in the US, but the UN is a platform for global governance where things like the banning of chemical warfare, clusterbombs and landmines are negotiated, where talks on KYOTO like treaties start, where heritage-sites of global importance are recognised, indexed and sponsored and so on.

 

When the internet is truly ubiquitous (a few years after my 30-40 y/o generation dies out is the current estimate) we will have digital government where decisions are made by the collective using internet voting.

[Cyclone]

Governance of the masses, that would truly be a disaster.

The IQ of a crowd is inversely proportional to it's size and you're talking about a global crowd that includes everyone in the world.

Can you imagine what kind of policies would be popular. The abolition of taxes for example, I expect would gain much support.

[geared]

Is there some reason it couldn't operate as a federation in a similar way to the US, allowing for local differences and implementations of law, but with some overriding federal laws and guiding principles?

 

It is pretty much being forced to do that right now, and there have been loads of strikes and riots.

 

My point being they wouldn't willingly accept that, it had to be forced on them when they had no other choice.

 

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Greece was unable to devalue its currency because its currency was the Euro, but what would it be devaluing against? that same Euro.

 

Greece didn't fail because it got rid of the Drachma.

Greece failed because they way they ran their country was incompatible with the rest of the EU.

 

Don't bother paying taxes, don't bother collecting taxes, give everyone in the puclic sector a huge pay rise and fund it all with government loans.

 

Sort it out "mañana"

 

The problem is there's loads of other countries that will behave just like Greece given half the chance, which is why it's hard to bring them all under one government.