Obelix Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Berners Lee He didn't invent the Internet though. (the WWW is not the same thing at all as the Internt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 He didn't invent the Internet though. (the WWW is not the same thing at all as the Internt) The founding principles of the internet are what I believe should be upheld. Freedom of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The founding principles of the internet are what I believe should be upheld. Freedom of information. Where are they documented then? The internet is built according to the RFC lists.... about the closest you will get will be Postel's Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So that means the government spying on your emails & activity. That's not a good thing by the way. 'They' don't read them all, a massive computer does. 'They' don't listen to all your calls, a massive computer does. The computers look for patterns, key phrases and a multitude of other behaviour that can be flagged for further review. You would have to be interested in some pretty kinky stuff and use some pretty lurid language before an actual civil servant showed even the slightest bit of interest. The idea that anyone in Government gives a stuff about what most people are doing most of the time is Orwellian baloney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 'They' don't read them all, a massive computer does. 'They' don't listen to all your calls, a massive computer does. The computers look for patterns, key phrases and a multitude of other behaviour that can be flagged for further review. You would have to be interested in some pretty kinky stuff and use some pretty lurid language before an actual civil servant showed even the slightest bit of interest. The idea that anyone in Government gives a stuff about what most people are doing most of the time is Orwellian baloney. It was mooted the government would be able to apply for unfettered access to emails. ---------- Post added 27-05-2016 at 14:05 ---------- Where are they documented then? The internet is built according to the RFC lists.... about the closest you will get will be Postel's Law. Where is what documented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 It was mooted the government would be able to apply for unfettered access to emails. ---------- Post added 27-05-2016 at 14:05 ---------- Where is what documented? The founding principles of the internet. They don't exist and are certainly not documented (ARPAnet was a military funded project, do the maths on principles of freedom). However, the WWW is designed to be based on principles of freedom as discussed extensivelt by Berners-Lee. The truth is that they are still developing (the principles) but as things stand it depends a lot on who is at the steering wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 It was mooted the government would be able to apply for unfettered access to emails. ---------- Post added 27-05-2016 at 14:05 ---------- Where is what documented? So? Do you understand the way that data would be analysed? My point stands. Do you know how much data Google has about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The founding principles of the internet. They don't exist and are certainly not documented (ARPAnet was a military funded project, do the maths on principles of freedom). However, the WWW is designed to be based on principles of freedom as discussed extensivelt by Berners-Lee. The truth is that they are still developing (the principles) but as things stand it depends a lot on who is at the steering wheel. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/10107784/Web-inventor-Berners-Lee-warns-forces-are-trying-to-take-control.html This journalist seems to think there are ---------- Post added 27-05-2016 at 14:14 ---------- So? Do you understand the way that data would be analysed? My point stands. Do you know how much data Google has about you? Probably less than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 'They' don't read them all, a massive computer does. 'They' don't listen to all your calls, a massive computer does. The computers look for patterns, key phrases and a multitude of other behaviour that can be flagged for further review. You would have to be interested in some pretty kinky stuff and use some pretty lurid language before an actual civil servant showed even the slightest bit of interest. The idea that anyone in Government gives a stuff about what most people are doing most of the time is Orwellian baloney. There speaks someone who takes our (current) freedoms for granted. Try going to any country with a dictatorship, and see how free people are to speak their minds. The government certainly takes an interest there. Times change. We live in a democracy, a long way from dictatorships, but we mustn't allow it to be undermined. Ask Julian Assange, or Edward Snowden. Ask any whistleblower... People have to be aware how precious such freedoms are, and remember the need to protect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 It was mooted the government would be able to apply for unfettered access to emails. ---------- Post added 27-05-2016 at 14:05 ---------- Where is what documented? I referenced your post so you couldn't miss it. The founding principles of the internet. Where are they documented? What are they? You seem to think they exist - I'm doubting that existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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