Anna B Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 It's amazing how the Scandinavian countries seem to be really well run and successful yet we hear very little about them, and never seem to follow their example. Meanwhile, we always seem to follow America's lead, even though it has one of the worst records for education, and lots of other things, and I suspect is pretty corrupt too. And it's thousands of miles away when Scandinavia is on the doorstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 More nonsense in the news today. "Tories Michael Gove and Boris Johnson and Labour's Gisela Stuart wrote in the Sun that the tax on energy bills cannot be scrapped because of EU rules." They have never mentioned lowering this tax before, why now? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36414761 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 This probably correlates with the strength of democratic institutions. Denmark is also the most democratic country in Europe, whereas the UK is one of the most undemocratic, ahead only of France and Poland (as measured in 2011). Interesting that some of those countries that rate well in the corruption perception index and in the list you provide are in EU as well. The Scandinavian countries as Anna B mentions. How does that tally for Brexiters? It's demonstrably possible to have a democratic and uncorrupted state and be in the EU. Maybe the perceived lack of EU democracy Brexiters feel is not the fault of the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) It's amazing how the Scandinavian countries seem to be really well run and successful yet we hear very little about them, and never seem to follow their example. Meanwhile, we always seem to follow America's lead, even though it has one of the worst records for education, and lots of other things, and I suspect is pretty corrupt too. And it's thousands of miles away when Scandinavia is on the doorstep. In comparison the Scandis are small countries. Only 5 million people in Denmark. We are more inline with a germany or france or US who face similar challenges to UK. ---------- Post added 31-05-2016 at 13:41 ---------- Denmark apparently. The happiest too. I'd be happy in england if we only had 5 million people too! Edited May 31, 2016 by Tomjames ,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Interesting that some of those countries that rate well in the corruption perception index and in the list you provide are in EU as well. The Scandinavian countries as Anna B mentions. How does that tally for Brexiters? It's demonstrably possible to have a democratic and uncorrupted state and be in the EU. Maybe the perceived lack of EU democracy Brexiters feel is not the fault of the EU? What we lack, and have lacked for years, is decent government. It is far too short sighted, and these days, dogged by personal self interest. I'd also say we are far too deferential to class and tradition. We seem to think corruption is endemic in other countries, but doesn't / couldn't happen here. A belief that is completely mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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