Cyclone Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 There's no need to "demand anything", this question is more apt "have you walked into a barbers and been refused a haircut because of your gender?" ---------- Post added 03-06-2016 at 13:44 ---------- Right. No consistency. So I guess men can now rock up to female only gyms and demand service? Re:Gyms, they DO require membership, like a private club, barbers, not so much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 The barber didn't have a reasonable justification why he wouldn't cut the hair of the woman concerned. It's pretty simple to understand. https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/what_equality_law_means_for_your_business.pdf The barber does not have to give reasonable justification, and he also declined to give any so probable already knows the law. Quote from the pdf guide; "You are allowed to provide single-sex services (services just for men or just for women) where this is objectively justified and: • only men or only women require the service," A barbers such as this is traditionally a place for males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 The barber does not have to give reasonable justification, and he also declined to give any so probable already knows the law. Quote from the pdf guide; "You are allowed to provide single-sex services (services just for men or just for women) where this is objectively justified and: • only men or only women require the service," A barbers such as this is traditionally a place for males. He did give reason...he doesn't cut women's hair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 The barber does not have to give reasonable justification, and he also declined to give any so probable already knows the law. Quote from the pdf guide; "You are allowed to provide single-sex services (services just for men or just for women) where this is objectively justified and: • only men or only women require the service," A barbers such as this is traditionally a place for males. I think you'll find that comes under the category of 'Clutching at straws'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 The barber does not have to give reasonable justification, and he also declined to give any so probable already knows the law. Quote from the pdf guide; "You are allowed to provide single-sex services (services just for men or just for women) where this is objectively justified and: • only men or only women require the service," A barbers such as this is traditionally a place for males. No, he's quite clearly breaching the law by declining to serve a male style haircut to a customer. He's not running a private barbers club, he's illegally discriminating against a customer because of her gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 He did give reason...he doesn't cut women's hair! If you read the article it was stated that when asked by the woman he declined to comment, which means he didnt give a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 No, he's quite clearly breaching the law by declining to serve a male style haircut to a customer. He's not running a private barbers club, he's illegally discriminating against a customer because of her gender. He can decline to serve anyone if he wishes and he didn't state that it was because of her gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 He can decline to serve anyone if he wishes and he didn't state that it was because of her gender. He can decline to serve anyone, for a number of reasons which are legal. But he can't decline to serve someone because of gender. And that appears to be what he did. His behaviour and subsequent comments made that quite clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaati Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Since some of your couldn't help yourselves after the two thread warnings this thread is now closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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