Jeffrey Shaw Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Mr Obama himself has only a limited residual shelf-life. So he would not be involved when trade deals are negotiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 What about all those people who had postal votes? They can't change their minds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I know I'm fairly late to this discussion, but I hadn't made my mind up until yesterday about which way I was going to vote. I'm pretty sure that lots of people are still undecided. I have to say though, that I made my mind up in spite of the campaign - not because of it. The quality of the debate, from both sides, has been **** poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1976 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I know I'm fairly late to this discussion, but I hadn't made my mind up until yesterday about which way I was going to vote. I'm pretty sure that lots of people are still undecided. I have to say though, that I made my mind up in spite of the campaign - not because of it. The quality of the debate, from both sides, has been **** poor. Late too. I'd decided not to bother, then the antics and arguments of one side of the debate, which I found frankly childish and pathetic, swayed me to the opposite side!! I won't say which side I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shef1985 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Gordon Brown the other day, uttered the most extraordinary words I think I've ever heard come out of a politician's mouth when he said "Europe protects Britain from the conservative party". Think about that for a minute. It does, but you haven't quoted what he said properly or in full context. Edited June 17, 2016 by Shef1985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Wow...he's right, it does, but you have to quote what he said properly. Do you not see the blatant immorality of that argument? If the British people vote for low taxes and low spending, or whatever the Conservative party of the day offer, then that's what they should get. Likewise, if they vote for socialism or whatever, that's what they should get. Otherwise the whole thing collapses in a pile of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Do you not see the blatant immorality of that argument? If the British people vote for low taxes and low spending, or whatever the Conservative party of the day offer, then that's what they should get. Likewise, if they vote for socialism or whatever, that's what they should get. Otherwise the whole thing collapses in a pile of crap. Immorality? Have you gone stark raving mad? If there's a Brexit it's likely Scotland will continue to vote for the SNP. That keeps the Tories in power in the UK as a whole and unless boundaries change it will do for some time to come. Who represents the North of England's interests then? There is nothing immoral about pointing that out. But the point is moot because Alan Hartley didn't quote Brown properly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousedd Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) well look on the bright side if Scotland split off from the uk labour would have a better chance of winning. labour don't seem to have the right policies or attitude to be able to win an election at the moment sadly. Edited June 17, 2016 by dangerousedd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer1 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 When the Labour Party is divided on policies how can voters understand what the policies are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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