mossdog Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) ...........you do realize that it's down to lots of pensioners who saved this country from the Master-race on two occasions that some people seem to now want to stay in bed with! Edited June 13, 2016 by mossdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Social care in this country needs reform and lots more money. Old people in beds aren't there for giggles, it's because they can't go anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I don,t want free movement so we will have to see what is negotiated. Don,t want to,live or work in Europe and if they want to make it hard for me to holiday there I will go to the US Unless you are doing the negotiating you might have to lump it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 I don,t want free movement so we will have to see what is negotiated. Don,t want to,live or work in Europe and if they want to make it hard for me to holiday there I will go to the US There will have to be free movement of people with any single market agreement. Sorry Panz, net migration will keep going up and up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Colleague found an old copy of the Mirror from 1983 in his attic over the weekend. The pre GE scaremongering stated that if the Tories won the election, then the NHS would be dismantled and privatised immediately. Sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennis Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Latest headline in the Express ...my things are getting worse by the second `Brexit will spell END of EU and bring ‘DESTRUCTION of Western civilisation’, says eurocrat` Edited June 13, 2016 by Glennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Colleague found an old copy of the Mirror from 1983 in his attic over the weekend. The pre GE scaremongering stated that if the Tories won the election, then the NHS would be dismantled and privatised immediately. Sound familiar? It's taken them over 2 decades, but they are well into the process of setting it up to fail and be privatised. ---------- Post added 13-06-2016 at 13:51 ---------- didn't pensioners pay into the system all their lives to get good health care when their older or is it proposed putting them straight onto the Liverpool care pathway when they start costing money? They paid into the system for the system at the time. Do you think that all the payments were put aside for when they got older? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 It's taken them over 2 decades, but they are well into the process of setting it up to fail and be privatised.I'll just leave this acronym-link here for dangerousedd: PFI. They paid into the system for the system at the time. Do you think that all the payments were put aside for when they got older?Methinks a lot of people have come to understand how much of a Ponzi scheme tax-funded pensions and healthcare actually are, all the more so when the age pyramid starts to get the wrong shape, in recent years on the back of the "readjustments" that followed the 2008 crisis... ...but obviously still not all of the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 It's only ponzi like because life expectancy keeps increasing and the age pyramid thus gets all out of shape. It would have been difficult to predict when it was set up that this would happen, but the reform should have started about 30 years ago probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 It's only ponzi like because life expectancy keeps increasing and the age pyramid thus gets all out of shape. It would have been difficult to predict when it was set up that this would happen, but the reform should have started about 30 years ago probably. Ironically life expectancy is increasing in no small part to the improvement in healthcare..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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