Cyclone Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Indeed, healthcare and general health awareness leaving to healthier lifestyles, and also a shift away from heavy industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Indeed, healthcare and general health awareness leaving to healthier lifestyles, and also a shift away from heavy industry. Given that it's only ever going to be an upwardly spiralling bill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Which really means that pension age has to be linked somehow to average life expectancy, otherwise the burden becomes entirely unsustainable very quickly. It's a shame that this wasn't recognised decades ago though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Which really means that pension age has to be linked somehow to average life expectancy, otherwise the burden becomes entirely unsustainable very quickly. It's a shame that this wasn't recognised decades ago though. It probably was recognised but raising pension age isn't exactly a vote winner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Which really means that pension age has to be linked somehow to average life expectancy, otherwise the burden becomes entirely unsustainable very quickly. It's a shame that this wasn't recognised decades ago though. Life expectancy and the age where you still have the ability to work are two very very different numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Colleague found an old copy of the Mirror from 1983 in his attic over the weekend. The pre GE scaremongering stated that if the Tories won the election, then the NHS would be dismantled and privatised immediately. Sound familiar? They've tried to privatise a lot of things. Especially things that cost money. It's effective opposition from the public that has stopped them fully privatising the NHS. Saying that, it was Brown & Labour who sold off chunks of the NHS on high interest PPI deals. ---------- Post added 13-06-2016 at 15:17 ---------- Which really means that pension age has to be linked somehow to average life expectancy, otherwise the burden becomes entirely unsustainable very quickly. It's a shame that this wasn't recognised decades ago though. Average life expectancy isnt going up by a huge amount and the age people are healthier and can therefore work & contribute is going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Life expectancy and the age where you still have the ability to work are two very very different numbers. Yes they are, but life expectancy, and the cost of a medically supported old age are quite closely linked. We can't somehow magically afford to continue to support the elderly as we all live longer without changing something. ---------- Post added 13-06-2016 at 15:29 ---------- It probably was recognised but raising pension age isn't exactly a vote winner... Yes, the shortermism that elections breed. No desire to plan for the long term because the only thing that matters is the next election in 5 years time. ---------- Post added 13-06-2016 at 15:30 ---------- Average life expectancy isnt going up by a huge amount and the age people are healthier and can therefore work & contribute is going up. http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/lifetables/interim-life-tables/2008-2010/sum-ilt-2008-10.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17811732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilldig Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 bit late if that was their intention, think a lot of oldies will have voted by post. That is true. Also they may be worried about the breakdown of the NHS and GPs surgeries due to open borders if we stay in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Saying that, it was Brown & Labour who sold off chunks of the NHS on high interest PPI deals. I think if the NHS had PPI it would have got it's money back by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yes they are, but life expectancy, and the cost of a medically supported old age are quite closely linked. We can't somehow magically afford to continue to support the elderly as we all live longer without changing something. ---------- Post added 13-06-2016 at 15:29 ---------- Yes, we need to pay much more taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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