EU Voting Purely About Migrants?

[tzijlstra]

Actually, it isn't down to EU rules at all that immigrants in the UK receive certain benefits or not. That is an illusion that keeps going around. The UK can limit all sorts of social benefits to tax-paying immigrants only, no questions asked by the EU - this includes social housing and income for those not in a job at all.

 

What isn't included is this: An EU worker should earn the same as a British worker in Britain. The UK can not tell EU-migrants that they do not get tax-credits for example. The reason is simple - it would be discrimination.

 

I have said this numerous, countless, infinite times - migrants come here for work. Brexit will only change that if there is no work here. if there is no work here for migrants, there won't be work for Brits. The only way Brexit is potentially going to slow down migration significantly is by crashing the economy.

[El Cid]

Actually, it isn't down to EU rules at all that immigrants in the UK receive certain benefits or not. That is an illusion that keeps going around. The UK can limit all sorts of social benefits to tax-paying immigrants only, no questions asked by the EU - this includes social housing and income for those not in a job at all.

 

What isn't included is this: An EU worker should earn the same as a British worker in Britain. The UK can not tell EU-migrants that they do not get tax-credits for example. The reason is simple - it would be discrimination.

 

I have said this numerous, countless, infinite times - migrants come here for work. Brexit will only change that if there is no work here. if there is no work here for migrants, there won't be work for Brits. The only way Brexit is potentially going to slow down migration significantly is by crashing the economy.

 

They would not be discriminating if they just paid it once certain tax contributions have been made for 5 years. So school leavers would not get houses too, would that be a bad thing?

[Flanker7]

Many seem to think that it's like a general election and that if they vote for leave immigration will be tackled with a new energy.

 

The day after the referendum we will still have a Conservative government , Cameron will still be prime minister and he will still have the support of the majority of his parliamentary party and the overwhelming support of his cabinet.

[Chelle-82]

Those that are voting purely on the issue with immigration should have their right to vote revoked!!

 

Ill-informed Idiots being allowed to vote without even educating themselves on all the relevant matters on the vote are dangerous individuals that end up getting the rest of us in situations we dont want/need to be in....

[L00b]

They would not be discriminating if they just paid it once certain tax contributions have been made for 5 years. So school leavers would not get houses too, would that be a bad thing?

For British politicians, absolutely.

 

School leavers are by and large British and therefore are, or shortly would be, GE voters.

 

EU immigrants never would be.

 

QED

 

That's before we've considered domestic economic interests (private and public) underpinning the UK's current and past immigration policies.

Edited June 16, 2016 by L00b

[Tomjames]

That is true for inside the EU, but we can for outside the EU.

 

In 2015 we let in 180,000 from outside the EU, would you like us to stop those coming in?

The Conservatives seem to be happy with 330,000 net immigration.

 

I would like to stop most of those coming in.

 

I'd prefer net migration to get down to 50-100k mark for a few years but it's not going to happen.

[Eater Sundae]

The British people have been willfully under informed on the EU for more than 40 years. Expecting the media and politicians to suddenly be honest on the subject was wishing for the stars (even if that's what I was wishing).

 

Cameron is just re-using the Fear tactics of the Scottish referendum. It worked then, it's not looking too promising for him now.

 

Regardless of next Thursday's result, whether we actually ever get to leave is still far from certain. As opposed to what is certain, which is that I'm off to the supermarket.

 

In the Scottish referendum, there wasn't an "immigration" issue, so he could use economic arguments without this inconvenience.

 

Cameron has misjudged this terribly. Even if remain wins, the damage has been done, not just to his party, but to the country as a whole, by giving a voice to some basic, anti foreigner rhetoric.

[unbeliever]

Those that are voting purely on the issue with immigration should have their right to vote revoked!!

 

Ill-informed Idiots being allowed to vote without even educating themselves on all the relevant matters on the vote are dangerous individuals that end up getting the rest of us in situations we dont want/need to be in....

 

Educated meaning agreeing with you?

[Tomjames]

Those that are voting purely on the issue with immigration should have their right to vote revoked!!

 

Ill-informed Idiots being allowed to vote without even educating themselves on all the relevant matters on the vote are dangerous individuals that end up getting the rest of us in situations we dont want/need to be in....

 

It's the important issue for many citizens. Calling the public idiots for caring about wages, jobs, schools and healthcare is a tad disingenuous.

[dangerousedd]

Those that are voting purely on the issue with immigration should have their right to vote revoked!!

 

Ill-informed Idiots being allowed to vote without even educating themselves on all the relevant matters on the vote are dangerous individuals that end up getting the rest of us in situations we dont want/need to be in....

 

 

so what you want is a plutocracy or a dictatorship just as long as things go your way.