tzijlstra Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 The UK needs to ensure single-member constituencies and has always had simple "X" voting. AV necessitates multiple vote casting; and the voter would not know which candidates would occupy the top two places. Good point. Is there a UKIP policy related to the electoral system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Good point. Is there a UKIP policy related to the electoral system? Probably, given that 4m votes last year led to just one MP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 French system: vote for MPs as usual. If none gains > 50% of votes cast, have a second 'run-off' vote between the top two only. That's all but identical to AV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 That's all but identical to AV. No, because AV is a one-time double vote, cast before one knows which candidates will come 1st and 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 No, because AV is a one-time double vote, cast before one knows which candidates will come 1st and 2nd. Are you suggesting that one's second choice is likely to change between the first round and the second? Imagine a situation where there are 4 candidates: A, B, C, D You really dislike candidate A, you really like B, D is okay, and C will do at a push. Under AV, you rank B=1, D=2, C=3, A=4 (or nothing). Under a knock-out system you vote B in the first round, B in the second round unless B was eliminated in which case D, and so on. I don't see a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I don't see a difference. Clearly, though, the French do see a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Are you suggesting that one's second choice is likely to change between the first round and the second? Imagine a situation where there are 4 candidates: A, B, C, D You really dislike candidate A, you really like B, D is okay, and C will do at a push. Under AV, you rank B=1, D=2, C=3, A=4 (or nothing). Under a knock-out system you vote B in the first round, B in the second round unless B was eliminated in which case D, and so on. I don't see a difference. The other difference is that those who didn't vote in the first round can vote in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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