foxy lady Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 he didnt mean that tho Oh right. You speak for the others now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Oh right. You speak for the others now? just interpreting what he meant...may be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 just interpreting what he meant...may be wrong Quote: Originally Posted by foxy lady View Post That's very easy....Party splits.. After that a new party emerges which would not be loyal to Corbyn, they would become Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition. They could easily have 170/180 MPs. : In other words, "The Labour Party". "The Labour Party is Dead, Long Live The Labour Party" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 From what I've heard, Owen Smith is simply regurgitating a lot of Corbyn's ideas. So it all seems rather a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker7 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 You do realise that Corbyn's beliefs are more important to him than power. His years on the back benches showed that he won't compromise just for position or power. All this treating the Working Class with contempt and middle class, hairy legged, guardian reading social workers stuff shows more about the right than the left. They are the ones that see life like that and they seem incapable of understanding concepts like the greater good and non selfish positions. I expect them to laugh at me for these comments because for them power is the be all and end all and any compromise to get, win or keep power is justified. Cameron was the supreme example of this. Lord Stansgate was the opposite. Judge him by his own standards you don't hear him appealing for loyalty(to him) or compromise or diluting beliefs. AND you can't do anything without power. That's why, I too, think he should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 From what I've heard, Owen Smith is simply regurgitating a lot of Corbyn's ideas. So it all seems rather a waste of time. Not at all. That's ideal. Owen is potentially Labour's salvation. Somebody who shares your values, and isn't a muppet; or at least is less of a muppet. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Not at all. That's ideal. Owen is potentially Labour's salvation. Somebody who shares your values, and isn't a muppet; or at least is less of a muppet. Problem solved. but he doesnt does he, we know he is fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) but he doesnt does he, we know he is fake Evidence? Are we actually going to get meaningful debate out of you this time or are you just going to post emoticons and then declare victory? Owen's voting record is pretty socialist. He did a good job for your side coordinating the defeat of the government defeat over tax credit cuts. Actually get's things done this one. Is that not the idea? ---------- Post added 28-07-2016 at 21:36 ---------- I've no idea what I'm doing here to be honest. Most of me wants Labour to collapse in a heap of socialism so that they can't end up running the country. A small and dwindling part of me sees a contribution they make to the debate and to political balance. I doubt it will survive this leadership contest. Edited July 28, 2016 by unbeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Evidence? Are we actually going to get meaningful debate out of you this time or are you just going to post emoticons and then declare victory? Owen's voting record is pretty socialist. He did a good job for your side coordinating the defeat the government defeat over tax credit cuts. Actually get's things done this one. Is that not the idea? ---------- Post added 28-07-2016 at 21:36 ---------- I've no idea what I'm doing here to be honest. Most of me wants Labour to collapse in a heap of socialism so that they can't end up running the country. A small and dwindling part of me sees a contribution they make to the debate and to political balance. I doubt it will survive this leadership contest. and then not long later, he is anti austerity by the way....dont take defeat personal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) and then not long later, he is anti austerity by the way....dont take defeat personal Argument by emoticon it is then. Okay. I official don't care if Labour destroys itself. I'm frankly fed up with socialist numpties having a go at me for trying to save them from themselves. You go ahead and vote Corbyn back in. You and your Trotskyist lunatic friends. When you've a handful of MPs left and having a meaningful impact on government policy is nothing but a distant memory, do try and remember that your political opponents did our best to save you from yourselves. Edited July 28, 2016 by unbeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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