The Joker Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 My last Dell computer ceased working a few years ago the_bloke, and I bought an HP one. I don't know whether they're tax-dodgers. I've purchased hundreds of Dell PCs over the years and their warranty support is the best I've experienced. Get a 5 year, next-business-day onsite warranty and Dell will send an engineer round the next day to fix that computer. HP (and I've purchased dozens of their PCs and servers) are happy to send the replacement parts and have me replace them unless I ask very nicely Funnily enough, I was recently comparing Dell's desktop PC prices to those of smaller computer manufacturers such as Scan etc, and Dell were around 10% cheaper on a typical £400 desktop PC. So at least they're passing the tax savings onto me, the consumer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I've purchased hundreds of Dell PCs over the years and their warranty support is the best I've experienced. Get a 5 year, next-business-day onsite warranty and Dell will send an engineer round the next day to fix that computer. HP (and I've purchased dozens of their PCs and servers) are happy to send the replacement parts and have me replace them unless I ask very nicely Funnily enough, I was recently comparing Dell's desktop PC prices to those of smaller computer manufacturers such as Scan etc, and Dell were around 10% cheaper on a typical £400 desktop PC. So at least they're passing the tax savings onto me, the consumer Yeah I was happy with both my old Dells. This HP one has been good too for a few years. I'll be sure to check the tax dodging of next new one! - Meanwhile, Angela Smith was on BBC Radio Sheff this afternoon, talking about Corbyn. Didn't think much to her, very much just reading out pre-thought answers (as you expect from MPs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Classic. Read my views on people who use all these products - KNOWING they are tax-dodging - then complain that they don't pay up. You know what these people are called Joker? The MAJORITY. That's one of the reason that I think the majority of people are morons The dealings of these companies are so complex with parent companies etc it's very hard to avoid putting money into their coffers. I read somewhere that there are only about 10 corporations and absolutely everything finds its way back to them. No matter how hard you try to avoid them, they have it all stitched up. There are fewer and fewer independents who can survive this onslaught even though I always try to support them where I can. Does that make me a moron? It's really up to the governments to make them pay their taxes, not individuals. They make me pay mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Interesting article on Corbyn in the New Statesman yesterday. It explains the behaviour of his more vocal supporters on here very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) Meanwhile, Angela Smith was on BBC Radio Sheff this afternoon, talking about Corbyn. Didn't think much to her, very much just reading out pre-thought answers (as you expect from MPs) I note that 3 of the Sheffield MPs have signed the nomination for Owen Smith and another was already on the Momentum "Hostile to Corbyn" list. I'm not aware that any are openly backing Corbyn. How many local MPs will still be in the Labour Party this time next year? We shouldn't forget this chap who I believe once led Sheffield Council. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36658006 Edited July 29, 2016 by foxy lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 That is the post where you admit to being a Jonny come lately who hasn't ever actually done anything for the party except pay £3 and then expect everyone to dance around your ego while you destroy the party's ability to oppose and/or govern. You will soon get bored when you are asked to do some actual work instead of being a keyboard warrior. Your opinion is worthless really because deep down you're just the same sort of narcissist as Donald Trump. Jukes x Wow, you sound very bitter Jukes that the party has moved from Blairist position to a socialist one. but please bear in mind the socialist position is where it all originally started until it was infiltrated by right wingers. Yeah, you are right, i have not done anything for the party, but why should i? I have felt they didnt represent me, it was a struggle to vote for them, let alone go out knocking on doors asking other people to vote for them, but now the party is lurching to the left, i will indeed take a more active part in the movement I see you didnt answer my question earlier when i asked you.. "How is he ruining our party by turning it into a laughing stock full of stuck up middle class graduates". as you described.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Wow, you sound very bitter Jukes that the party has moved from Blairist position to a socialist one. but please bear in mind the socialist position is where it all originally started until it was infiltrated by right wingers. Yeah, you are right, i have not done anything for the party, but why should i? I have felt they didnt represent me, it was a struggle to vote for them, let alone go out knocking on doors asking other people to vote for them, but now the party is lurching to the left, i will indeed take a more active part in the movement I see you didnt answer my question earlier when i asked you.. "How is he ruining our party by turning it into a laughing stock full of stuck up middle class graduates". as you described.? it wasn't "infiltrated by right wingers" - Jack Straw etc were about as far left as you could get in their youth, they grew into right wing/neocons/whatevers as they got older and realised socialism doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 it wasn't "infiltrated by right wingers" - Jack Straw etc were about as far left as you could get in their youth, they grew into right wing/neocons/whatevers as they got older and realised socialism doesn't work. One of the right wingers calling for Corbyn to go. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36658006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 it wasn't "infiltrated by right wingers" - Jack Straw etc were about as far left as you could get in their youth, they grew into right wing/neocons/whatevers as they got older and realised socialism doesn't work. Whether you view it as, "realising socialism doesnt work"..or perhaps "another one getting aboard the gravy train" is up for debate, wasnt Mr moneybags Kinnock a socialist.? and look how he has turned out, he is now part of the problem... and lets not forget that when these good socialists turned their backs on their comrades, they were also purging the true left wing socialists from the party... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker7 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Interesting article on Corbyn in the New Statesman yesterday. It explains the behaviour of his more vocal supporters on here very well. It's good stuff and relates all Political movements all over the world. Its the default position of many who appeal to those who don't want to think too much about it. The style was extensively used during the Referendum campaign by both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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