Is it time for Corbyn to resign.

[Lex Luthor]

Corbyn - like Nero he fiddled whilst the UK burnt.

 

I thought Foot was the worst leader they had. Not any more.

 

You're not confusing him with Boris are you, who had absolutely no answer to journalists questions this weekend as he was preparing for his cricket match?

[altus]

So would you rather have an opposition which is basically Tory mark 2, or Tory Lite? Because without Corbyn that's what you'll get.

That's a false dichotomy - if he was the only person in the party with his views he'd never have been elected as leader.

 

The problem with Corbyn is not so much his policies it's that he simply isn't good at leading people. He doesn't give clear messages so people don't know what he is really advocating. He can't motivate people to follow him.

[Eater Sundae]

That's a false dichotomy - if he was the only person in the party with his views he'd never have been elected as leader.

 

The problem with Corbyn is not so much his policies it's that he simply isn't good at leading people. He doesn't give clear messages so people don't know what he is really advocating. He can't motivate people to follow him.

 

He sees himself as a follower, not at leader. From day 1, his stated intent was to listen.

[foxy lady]

So would you rather have an opposition which is basically Tory mark 2, or Tory Lite? Because without Corbyn that's what you'll get.

 

Well I think the number of resignations is now around 15. Corbyn will soon have to start appointing new shadow ministers who can resign in order to keep up with the newspapers. At least we are learning who used to be in the shadow cabinet.

[unbeliever]

Check out today's daily mash on this. Funniest thing ever.

[carosio]

Blair remained popular because he rode the waves of anti islam feelings. He was the scourge of the Muslims, attacking them for nothing, killing over a million of them and stealing their resources.

 

If it's oil that you mean, can you clarify; all the figures I've seen give the USA and UK as a small proportion of exports since 1991.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=iraqi+oil+exports+by+country&client=firefox-b-ab&sa=X&biw=1280&bih=584&tbm=isch&imgil=XWT84yVOjV0IlM%253A%253BXOr7MeM7SFcNtM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.resilience.org%25252Fstories%25252F2015-11-02%25252Firaq-needs-1-3-mb-d-additional-oil-exports-and-us-70-oil-to-balance-budget&source=iu&pf=m&fir=XWT84yVOjV0IlM%253A%252CXOr7MeM7SFcNtM%252C_&usg=__o4rRQ_rKLoqBBovBwWPBXrcJs_Y%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjXzfmS48fNAhWLKcAKHfMyAdYQyjcILw&ei=3OFwV9fvHIvTgAbz5YSwDQ#imgrc=XWT84yVOjV0IlM%3A

[runningman1]

If it's oil that you mean, can you clarify; all the figures I've seen give the USA and UK as a small proportion of exports since 1991.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=iraqi+oil+exports+by+country&client=firefox-b-ab&sa=X&biw=1280&bih=584&tbm=isch&imgil=XWT84yVOjV0IlM%253A%253BXOr7MeM7SFcNtM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.resilience.org%25252Fstories%25252F2015-11-02%25252Firaq-needs-1-3-mb-d-additional-oil-exports-and-us-70-oil-to-balance-budget&source=iu&pf=m&fir=XWT84yVOjV0IlM%253A%252CXOr7MeM7SFcNtM%252C_&usg=__o4rRQ_rKLoqBBovBwWPBXrcJs_Y%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjXzfmS48fNAhWLKcAKHfMyAdYQyjcILw&ei=3OFwV9fvHIvTgAbz5YSwDQ#imgrc=XWT84yVOjV0IlM%3A

 

I can clarify, we take co trolling of their resources and sell them to the countries mentioned in the graph. We keep the profits.

[truman]

You're not confusing him with Boris are you, who had absolutely no answer to journalists questions this weekend as he was preparing for his cricket match?

 

Which party is Boris the leader of?

[foxy lady]

Just you wait for the Tory leadership contest. That will make the Labour Party's revolt look like a garden party.

 

Then there is the bit where they have to form a negotiating committee to enact Article 50...

My money is on a permanent fracture of both major parties within a year.

 

I'm struggling with that one. The Tories have been divided on EU membership for 4 decades, but now that thorn has gone. The Eurosceptics have won.

All that remains is for the Europhiles to get on with forging whatever links with Europe that seem appropriate. There is no longer anything to argue over.

 

Labour on the other hand are split because the majority of Labour MPs know their leader is a prune. Unless the prune goes away those resigning have nowhere to go but to form a new party.

[blake]

He is no Michael Foot. He isn't even that left wing.

 

what is this. Corbyn is much more left-wing than Foot ever was. Corbyn, and his coterie are the same Bennites today that they always were - they haven't changed at all. Even the guy that was one of the high-ups in Benn's Deputy Leadership campaign in 1980, Jon Landsman, and the guy who managed Corbyn's leadership campaign last year, are one and the same. Corbyn's position on just about everything hasn't changed at all in 40 years and he is still just as left-wing today as he was back then. In those days, Bennites like Corbyn and Mcdonnell viewed Michael Foot as a creature of the right, Foot was the one who started taking on Militant before Kinnock did, Foot supported Thatcher in Northern Ireland and the Falklands, which Corbyn and Mcdonnell did not. Foot won the support of the majority of Labour MP's, when he stood for Labour leader, whereas almost no Labour MP's supported Corbyn last year, and as events are showing, they still don't. The only thing Foot and Corbyn have in common is that neither of them are or were electable, but even Foot was a much better candidate than Corbyn will be. Should Corbyn hold on, and refuse to resign which is the only way he can go, and still be in place as leader during a General Election, Labour will be reduced to much less MP's than the 209 they got with Foot as leader in 1983. They'll be lucky to get more than about 120.

 

 

if Corbyn does resign and replaced by someone else, whoever it is unless it is another time-warped bozo like Mcdonnell (though even Mcdonnell would probably do better than Corbyn), Labour will still lose the next election. Labour can't possibly win it, whenever it is, and whoever is their leader. But nobody who could conceivably become Corbyn's successor could manage to lose it by more than Corbyn would.