I1L2T3 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Yes Corbyn needs to go and as quickly as possible. The government needs a strong leader. And we need a strong opposition too. People underestimate what an important role the opposition should play in the political process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 This is one of those issues that cuts across party lines, so I see no reason for Corbyn to resign. People vote according to their own experiences and thoughts about Britain being a member of the EU, as have narrowly decided that they would like to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 you know the rule of rounding figures up or down.. indeed we do know the 'rule of rounding figures up and down'. The result was much closer to 50-50 than the 60-40 you claimed. And plenty of regions voted overwhelmingly Remain especially the capital. Take east London out of it, which very narrowly backed Leave, and London looks like it voted 70-30 to Remain. Lambeth voted an incredible 80-20 to Remain, though for some reason, the press is only mentioning Wandsworth, where it was 75-25 to Remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 In many regions the figure was 58 / 59% you know the rule of rounding figures up or down. Get the figures and do it yourself and see. Yes but you were referring to the national results. If you round 52%/48% to the nearest 10% you get 50%/50%. I don't really see it as the time for nitpicking. What I was saying was Corbyn was more in tune with the National mood than others. Corbyn would have liked to stay on in a reformed Europe. So would I and so would a lot of other people. It was made perfectly clear it wasn't going to happen. Nuanced arguments and strong leadership are mutually exclusive because it confuses people about what your views really are. Look at how many on here were saying Corbyn really wanted us to leave the EU. You can't motivate people if you don't seen convinced of you own arguments. That's why Corbyn is a poor leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Nice to see the Lib Dem leader call him spineless. Cross parties arr saying he did too little. Of course he did, he didn't want to bit the hand that fed (elected) him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Cameron to resign before October Party Conference. He's done the honourable thing. Well played Boris... ---------- Post added 24-06-2016 at 08:40 ---------- indeed we do know the 'rule of rounding figures up and down'. The result was much closer to 50-50 than the 60-40 you claimed. And plenty of regions voted overwhelmingly Remain especially the capital. Take east London out of it, which very narrowly backed Leave, and London looks like it voted 70-30 to Remain. Lambeth voted an incredible 80-20 to Remain, though for some reason, the press is only mentioning Wandsworth, where it was 75-25 to Remain. THe North East 59% leave North West 58% leave Yorkshire and Humber 58% leave Midlands 56% leave South West 57% leave London 34% leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Corbyn missed a trick by not sticking to his beliefs. Most of the areas that voted Leave are traditional working class, less affluent areas. In other words traditional Labour areas. He could have been next PM, but now he'll be replaced as Labour leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Corbyn missed a trick by not sticking to his beliefs. Most of the areas that voted Leave are traditional working class, less affluent areas. In other words traditional Labour areas. He could have been next PM, but now he'll be replaced as Labour leader. Traditional working class areas the uk governments have left to rot whilst receiving EU cash. Then an even further right wing Tory will take over. Less geese voting for Xmas more geese sharpening the knife and saying "cut here". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Corbyn missed a trick by not sticking to his beliefs. Most of the areas that voted Leave are traditional working class, less affluent areas. In other words traditional Labour areas. He could have been next PM, but now he'll be replaced as Labour leader. maybe you are assuming that 'traditional working class' people vote Labour but they don't. They used to, in the 1950s and 1960s, even when Labour were losing elections. But then they stopped voting Labour like they did before. Even in 1997, when Labour won by landslide, less 'traditional, working class' people voted Labour than they did in 1959, when Labour LOST by a landslide. in the last 2016 election, Labour did well in London, and had the entire country voted the same way London did, Ed Miliband would have a much bigger majority now than Cameron got last year. Labour did well in London in 2016. But UKIP didn't. UKIP did appallingly in London in 2016, just like LEAVE did appallingly in London in this referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer1 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Tinfoil thought it was the eu that directed where " Eu money " was spent, so it was the eu that left them to rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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