banjodeano Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 You think it's nonsense? He didnt sit on the board in 1984? He didnt have meeting with the leader of a proscribed terrorist organisation on repeated occassions? He didnt refer to his freinds in Hamas and Hezbollah? He didnt sit by and watch disgusting antisemitic abuse by a colleague and then joke about it afterwards? All these are undeniable facts, that you apparently are denying. Why? ---------- Post added 13-07-2016 at 19:19 ---------- Sorry Anna but going back to your original point Why do you think Corbyn is a man of the people. You still havent answered it? Of course he had meetings with them..!! It was to try and work out a solution, why do you think he had meetings with them.? so he could go on a bombing mission with them? Did the Tory government have discussions with the IRA,? And you know exactly why he refereed to terrorists as friends, its all been taken out of context, he was welcoming everyone round the table as friends, to set the mood for a solution, do you not understand that? and whilst we are taking things out of context, Corbyn said it was a tragedy Bin Laden was killed, but Cameron also said it was a tragedy Bin Laden was killed as well... isnt it strange uh.?....as for that anti semitic none sense...as i said, she was a plant, it was all a set up, Smeeth couldnt wait to get up and look all upset... are you seriously suggesting that Corbyn a man who has dedicated his life to peace is Anti semetic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Isn't that how the Good Friday agreement finally came about, you know, sitting down and talking rather than waging a silly endless war? Do you denounce John Major for engaging with a proscribed terrorist organisation? Corbyn actively courted Sinn Fein. He wrote for a magazine that described Thatcher as a legitimate target of war. "We refuse to parrot the ritual condemnation of ‘violence’ because we insist on placing responsibility where it lies…. Let our ‘Iron Lady’ know this: those who live by the sword shall die by it. If she wants violence, then violence she will certainly get.” Sinn Fein did not court peace. That was the SDLP. Corbyn opposed the Anglo-Irish agreement. Thatcher won that vote with her largest majority ever. Edited July 13, 2016 by Radan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Of course he had meetings with them..!! It was to try and work out a solution I'd love to know what international solution a back bench MP in opposition is capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I'd love to know what international solution a back bench MP in opposition is capable of. so because he was a back bench mp, he should not have bothered to try and broker a deal.? great logic there... when British soldiers and British subjects are getting blown to bits, any help should have been welcomed whats your views on the Tory government having talks with the IRA, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 so because he was a back bench mp, he should not have bothered to try and broker a deal.? great logic there... when British soldiers and British subjects are getting blown to bits, any help should have been welcomed whats your views on the Tory government having talks with the IRA, ? Not as bad as supporting their cause! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 so because he was a back bench mp, he should not have bothered to try and broker a deal.? great logic there... when British soldiers and British subjects are getting blown to bits, any help should have been welcomed whats your views on the Tory government having talks with the IRA, ? This would be the Government in power at the time, with access to full intelligence and the authority to actually make things happen? I have no problem with that especially considering it was Peter Brooke, the secretary to Northern Ireland who was charged with the job following intelligence via the MI5 that the IRA were ready for peace. Contrast that with Corbyn, with no political power whatsoever, wasn't even a member of the shadow cabinet, going to Hamas and trying to broker peace with an organisation that at no time have they expressed a desire for a peace deal. Please note; Brooke meeting the IRA led to the NI peace process. Corbyn achieved absolutely nothing by meeting Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 This would be the Government in power at the time, with access to full intelligence and the authority to actually make things happen? I have no problem with that especially considering it was Peter Brooke, the secretary to Northern Ireland who was charged with the job following intelligence via the MI5 that the IRA were ready for peace. Contrast that with Corbyn, with no political power whatsoever, wasn't even a member of the shadow cabinet, going to Hamas and trying to broker peace with an organisation that at no time have they expressed a desire for a peace deal. Please note; Brooke meeting the IRA led to the NI peace process. Corbyn achieved absolutely nothing by meeting Hamas. Ah...so its okay for the government to negotiate with terrorists, but if its Corbyn...........then it isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Ah...so its okay for the government to negotiate with terrorists, but if its Corbyn...........then it isnt Again, you miss. Are you an Italian footballer? Corbyn supported the IRA. There is a massive difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Ah...so its okay for the government to negotiate with terrorists, but if its Corbyn...........then it isnt When the terrorists come to you as the protagonist, wanting peace, and you can make that peace, then yes. If it was war, it would be called surrender. When the terrorists come to you, as an opponent of the protagonist (the protagonist being the UK Government of the time), just for a chat as they aren't interested in peace, and you can't make any difference to anything.. then it's all a bit pointless isn't it? Hamas: 'We want to destroy Israel' Corbyn: 'What about stopping the fighting?' Hamas: 'Not until Israel is destroyed' Corbyn: 'Not even a little bit?' Hamas: 'No' Corbyn: 'Oh.' Corbyn: 'Is that cake?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 When the terrorists come to you as the protagonist, wanting peace, and you can make that peace, then yes. If it was war, it would be called surrender. When the terrorists come to you, as an opponent of the protagonist (the protagonist being the UK Government of the time), just for a chat as they aren't interested in peace, and you can't make any difference to anything.. then it's all a bit pointless isn't it? Hamas: 'We want to destroy Israel' Corbyn: 'What about stopping the fighting?' Hamas: 'Not until Israel is destroyed' Corbyn: 'Not even a little bit?' Hamas: 'No' Corbyn: 'Oh.' Corbyn: 'Is that cake?' Mate, don't waste your time. You will never get those blinkers off. But Corbyn will never be PM so you will win in the end. Meantime, enjoy the Labour Pantomime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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