The consequence thread (Brexit)

[Penistone999]

Constitutionally the government can't implement Article 50 without an Act of Parliament - how many MPs will vote for that?

It ain't going to happen - get over it!

 

The ones who still want to be an MP after the next general election.

 

Any MP trying to stop Article 50 being implemented would be committing political suicide

[runningman1]

The ones who still want to be an MP after the next general election.

 

Any MP trying to stop Article 50 being implemented would be committing political suicide

 

Not so sure on that. If an MP made it their promise to vote against article 50 as an election pledge (like the lib Dems have suggested) then the Remainers would rally behind them. The leavers would have their vote split between Labour and Conservatives.

[Phanerothyme]

The ones who still want to be an MP after the next general election.

 

Any MP trying to stop Article 50 being implemented would be committing political suicide

 

This makes interesting reading:

https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2016/06/27/nick-barber-tom-hickman-and-jeff-king-pulling-the-article-50-trigger-parliaments-indispensable-role/

[Litotes]

This makes interesting reading:

https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2016/06/27/nick-barber-tom-hickman-and-jeff-king-pulling-the-article-50-trigger-parliaments-indispensable-role/

 

As does this

 

https://waitingfortax.com/2016/06/28/the-big-green-button-bill/

 

---------- Post added 29-06-2016 at 22:58 ----------

 

The ones who still want to be an MP after the next general election.

 

Any MP trying to stop Article 50 being implemented would be committing political suicide

 

We don't know the breakdown of the votes per seat.

 

It may be that in Sheffield (for example) one seat returned 100% leave all the other were 55% remain so leave would win on an aggregated count... but in an election you would have 1 seat leave but the rest remain... (hypothetically).

Edited June 29, 2016 by Litotes

[chalga]

As does this

 

https://waitingfortax.com/2016/06/28/the-big-green-button-bill/

 

 

It was a big red button a few hours ago,how come it's changed to a big green button now?

[Litotes]

It was a big red button a few hours ago,how come it's changed to a big green button now?

 

If you read through, I said I had paraphrased the quotation...

[foxy lady]

Or this one announced last year?

Jaguar Land Rover has confirmed that it will be the first British carmaker to open a manufacturing facility in Slovakia. The announcement follows an agreement between the company and the Government of the Slovak Republic to build a new plant in the city of Nitra, western Slovakia.

 

http://www.jaguarlandrover.com/gl/en/about-us/news/2015/12/11/jaguar-land-rover-confirms-new-factory-in-slovakia/

 

Another very good reason to be outside the EU. Jaguar can build a plant in the low wage republic and sell cars freely across the EU without hinderance and there is nothing that the high wage Germans car do about it, or even try to impose tariffs on them. But that Jaguar Plant would not have free access to UK customers. Indeed the only way Mercedes could similarly sell tariff free cars in the UK would be to build a factory here.

[tzijlstra]

Another very good reason to be outside the EU. Jaguar can build a plant in the low wage republic and sell cars freely across the EU without hinderance and there is nothing that the high wage Germans car do about it, or even try to impose tariffs on them. But that Jaguar Plant would not have free access to UK customers. Indeed the only way Mercedes could similarly sell tariff free cars in the UK would be to build a factory here.

 

Or... the UK could stay in the EU single market and than Mercedes could build them in Germany and sell them here anyway, and vice versa. Turns out the EU market is bigger than the UK market, also turns out that the German car manufacturers don't care, they solved the puzzle ahead of going bust, unlike the UK car manufacturers. Remind me again Foxy, who owns JLR?

[Radan]

The ones who still want to be an MP after the next general election.

 

Any MP trying to stop Article 50 being implemented would be committing political suicide

 

That's potentially about 450 MPs. Could UKIP field 650 half-sane candidates to have any chance of winning a majority next GE? Probably not. They have never had more than 2 MPs at once and even their Patron Saint of Imbecility Nigel Farage has failed to win a seat in SEVEN attempts.

 

Sir Thomas Dalyell said he would like to see MPs have the balls to ignore to referendum. He said it would be cowardice of them not to.

[Eater Sundae]

That's potentially about 450 MPs. Could UKIP field 650 half-sane candidates to have any chance of winning a majority next GE? Probably not. They have never had more than 2 MPs at once and even their Patron Saint of Imbecility Nigel Farage has failed to win a seat in SEVEN attempts.

 

Sir Thomas Dalyell said he would like to see MPs have the balls to ignore to referendum. He said it would be cowardice of them not to.

 

MPs are often criticised for being lobby fodder and just meekly following the instructions from the whips. This would ge an opportunity to vote from the heart. Would they take it?