I1L2T3 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 No we don't. Its been done to death. The issue of immigration has been dissected, examined and looked at from every possible perspective and from every conceivable angle. There literally is nothing else left to talk about on the subject. Everyone's made their mind up and not budging. I don't think so. We are going to have to have exactly this discussion. Immigration is not going to stop. We have to decide what shape it is going to take. If we don't then a lot of people are going to end up very disappointed. For example: 1. Would you support higher levels of non-EU students. Our higher education is highly commercialised and will need to be supported post-Brexit. Nearly £4bn a year is generated for the UK economy by EU students. £76m a week! 2. Do you support an increase in non-EU workers? Farage said he supported this. 3. How do we support seasonal requirements of UK agriculture, much of which is now met by EU workers? 4. Do we introduce a points based system? 5. How will residency permits work? How would quota systems work? 6. Is support of free movement still an option? 7. If economic growth stalls/overheats do we vary imigration levels to boost boost/supress growth? etc... etc... etc... You and other Brexiters need to address this head-on. You wanted to take back control remember. How are you going to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 You and other Brexiters need to address this head-on. You wanted to take back control remember. How are you going to do so? I voted to remain, I havnt a clue what that leavers want to do. From what I have learned leavers are old fashioned and comfortable, they want their old fashioned view of England back. A bit like those Dads Army days. When people talked to their neighbours and not the modern Pokemon style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I voted to remain, I havnt a clue what that leavers want to do. From what I have learned leavers are old fashioned and comfortable, they want their old fashioned view of England back. A bit like those Dads Army days. When people talked to their neighbours and not the modern Pokemon style. As far as I can see a lot of the older generation are fully paid up members of modern society. - They've stopped going to the pub. - They love their cheap supermarket beer, wine and spirits. Especially the spirits. See em in Morrison's loading up on it. - Many of them have Sky TV - Fully paid up members of the obesity epidemic. - Love their flash motors. They want to have their cake and eat it, and they want to eat your cake too. While they sit at home stuffed full of ready meals, tanked up on cheap supermarket booze and working themselves into a frenzy reading the Daily Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Smith Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I originally put this on the thread about Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, but I feel it`s just as valid, probably more so, on here : [about Australian and NZers attitude to the UK voting to leave the EU] The two I spoke to included my Brother, his son, my nephew, is a prefect at a NZ school. The NZ PM visited the other day and he met all the prefects who were all invited to ask him a question. James asked him what he thought of the UK voting to leave the EU. As I said, he replied that he found it hard to understand why they`d done that but that it wouldn`t make any difference to the relationship with NZ, as in it wouldn`t get any closer. They`re more focussed on Asia than the UK anyway. So, someone worth listening to I`d have thought...... The other was an Australian we met on a recent trip to Wales, he originally emigrated from Liverpool in the mid 1980s. Significantly, he said exactly the same thing as the NZ PM, albeit with rather more fruity language. And this on being a European Citizen (or not...) : I cannot remain a European Citizen (as in have the right to live and/ or work anywhere in the EU) if the UK leaves the EU. Furthermore, me and my wife are both unhappy that when we`re next abroad we`ll be thought of as insular bigots by all the other Europeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 On June 23rd the FTSE 250 dropped 11.4% its worst drop EVER; the FTSE 250, which is our best economic barometer for large UK companies, is still lower(16,727) than June 23rd, and is lower still than its high point in May 22nd 2015(18,192). Not sure if a lower FTSE 250 is reflection of a poor Conservative Government, or the referendum vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 No we don't. Its been done to death. The issue of immigration has been dissected, examined and looked at from every possible perspective and from every conceivable angle. There literally is nothing else left to talk about on the subject. Everyone's made their mind up and not budging. Except that threads about immigration are very popular on this forum.... ---------- Post added 16-07-2016 at 10:39 ---------- As far as I can see a lot of the older generation are fully paid up members of modern society. - They've stopped going to the pub. - They love their cheap supermarket beer, wine and spirits. Especially the spirits. See em in Morrison's loading up on it. - Many of them have Sky TV - Fully paid up members of the obesity epidemic. - Love their flash motors. They want to have their cake and eat it, and they want to eat your cake too. While they sit at home stuffed full of ready meals, tanked up on cheap supermarket booze and working themselves into a frenzy reading the Daily Mail. Sounds pretty accurate to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) As far as I can see a lot of the older generation are fully paid up members of modern society. - They've stopped going to the pub. - They love their cheap supermarket beer, wine and spirits. Especially the spirits. See em in Morrison's loading up on it. - Many of them have Sky TV - Fully paid up members of the obesity epidemic. - Love their flash motors. They want to have their cake and eat it, and they want to eat your cake too. While they sit at home stuffed full of ready meals, tanked up on cheap supermarket booze and working themselves into a frenzy reading the Daily Mail. - I was never a pub person. - I brew my own booze. - I don't watch TV. - I'm not obese or overweight. - I don't own a motor. Oh, and part of modern society seems to be the younger generations obsession with mobile phones which I also don't own. Once again we see people trying to blame the older generation for the young "me, me, I want it now" society who couldn't even bother to vote. ---------- Post added 16-07-2016 at 14:44 ---------- 3. How do we support seasonal requirements of UK agriculture, much of which is now met by EU workers? Who picked the seasonal crops in the past before the rush to the UK? In mid 1980's I did several seasons picking fruit and veg in Somerset and Cornwall. Most of the picking then was done by the British and also a lot by the New Age Travellers as they travelled around. Surprising also that a lot was also done by farm hands as a source of extra income. Edited July 16, 2016 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 - I was never a pub person. - I brew my own booze. - I don't watch TV. - I'm not obese or overweight. - I don't own a motor. Oh, and part of modern society seems to be the younger generations obsession with mobile phones which I also don't own. Once again we see people trying to blame the older generation for the young "me, me, I want it now" society who couldn't even bother to vote. ---------- Post added 16-07-2016 at 14:44 ---------- Who picked the seasonal crops in the past before the rush to the UK? In mid 1980's I did several seasons picking fruit and veg in Somerset and Cornwall. Most of the picking then was done by the British and also a lot by the New Age Travellers as they travelled around. Surprising also that a lot was also done by farm hands as a source of extra income. How come that foreign EU and non EU migrants are being brought in now then?...........why aren't unemployed Brits doing it?.........they're going to have to do it soon though,taking up the slack when free movement ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Who picked the seasonal crops in the past before the rush to the UK? In mid 1980's I did several seasons picking fruit and veg in Somerset and Cornwall. Most of the picking then was done by the British and also a lot by the New Age Travellers as they travelled around. Surprising also that a lot was also done by farm hands as a source of extra income. Unsurprisingly, things have changed in 30 years. New Age Travellers hardly exist any more - ditto farm hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer1 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I voted out and I am still happy with that decision. Chalga I hope you are right, there are plenty of unemployed to pick crops, they should be sanctioned if there us a job crop picking nearby and they refuse to do it. Benefits are a safety net and not supposed to be a way of life unless you are disabled. When next on holiday in Europe in September and the one booked in March I care not one jot what these Europeans think of me because they will still want the euros I spend there so do not worry Justin they will be just as they were before the vote, that is pleasant to your face and when away from you saying how the British are arrogant or rude or fat just like they always did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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