phil752 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Correction - they don't. They say that all workers have to be treated equally. Why does the UK not have a contributory system? Is that the fault of the EU? Isn't your gripe with the fact that the UK doesn't have such a system? Wouldn't that resolve a lot of different issues, from 'benefit scroungers' to 'migrants coming for benefits'? The EU isn't wasn't stopping the UK changing that. No it doesn't have a generous system at all, it has an appallingly low welfare system as a percentage of average income compared to many EU countries. It is a fallacy to think EU migrants come here for benefits. What are they going to live of? Where are they going to live? The EU didn't say that at all, the EU has consistently told the UK that it can change its system as long as it remains equal for all employees. The UK tried to introduce a system where British workers were favoured over EU workers, that is discrimination. However, the EU never told the UK it couldn't stop benefits for non-working EEA migrants, that was just the UK government not wanting to change. So here we are, Britain out of the EU, a Tory government with who knows what in charge in a few months and no doubt a lot of panic football to mitigate the impact of Brexit. it seems to me a fairer system would be to pay benefits to unemployed or in work benefit in whatever country they end up in. Then bill the allowances to their parent Country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelFargate Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 S Pretty much like the exit, a damp squid. I think you mean a damp squib. Squids are already damp, I think, so nothing unusual there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futures Red Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 You mean the FTSE 100, have you looked at the 250 that a lot of people feel is more representative of the state of the UK economy? You are awfully unaware of how the markets work for a trader. Reading her posts, she's definitely not a trader. A trader wouldn't be so quick to say "look it's gone back up" when all it was doing was consolidating. For then to go back down again later, which I said it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think you mean a damp squib. Squids are already damp, I think, so nothing unusual there. I think he meant squid. This whole process is going to involve a lot of ink and dealing with countless fearsome suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghozer Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 It might not happen yet any ways, the PM and Government have to enact article 50 of the lisbon treaty and trigger the exit, if they decide not to listen to the people, and don't do this, then we don't leave the EU and nothing changes.... the poll was not legally binding, and doesn't mean that we WILL leave, it's more of a "this is what the people want, now its up to you to act on it" poll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 it seems to me a fairer system would be to pay benefits to unemployed or in work benefit in whatever country they end up in. Then bill the allowances to their parent Country Can you imagine the outcry of... I don't know, Romania, when the UK sends them a bill for 1000£ a month per unemployed Romanian in the UK when they would cost 100£ in Romania? Likewise, the outcry of anti-immigration folk who feel that the unemployed Romanians are coming to the UK so they get more in benefits? ... OK. ---------- Post added 24-06-2016 at 16:46 ---------- It might not happen yet any ways, the PM and Government have to enact article 50 of the lisbon treaty and trigger the exit, if they decide not to listen to the people, and don't do this, then we don't leave the EU and nothing changes.... the poll was not legally binding, and doesn't mean that we WILL leave, it's more of a "this is what the people want, now its up to you to act on it" poll... If they don't act on it, it will be a travesty. The people (however uninformed) have spoken, if they weren't going to act on it, they shouldn't have delivered it. Although a cynic would of course say that this might exactly be why Cameron vacates Downing Street 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelFargate Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think he meant squid. This whole process is going to involve a lot of ink and dealing with countless fearsome suckers. I've not heard this joke for donkey's ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Can you imagine the outcry of... I don't know, Romania, when the UK sends them a bill for 1000£ a month per unemployed Romanian in the UK when they would cost 100£ in Romania? Likewise, the outcry of anti-immigration folk who feel that the unemployed Romanians are coming to the UK so they get more in benefits? ... OK. ---------- Post added 24-06-2016 at 16:46 ---------- If they don't act on it, it will be a travesty. The people (however uninformed) have spoken, if they weren't going to act on it, they shouldn't have delivered it. Although a cynic would of course say that this might exactly be why Cameron vacates Downing Street 10. ..........tell you what! in their heart of hearts,both Cameron and Corbyn want to be out of the EU! the clues have been around a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 No it isn't. It is 98% of the companies. Not the market. The FTSE100 is the largest 100 which is why it has a market capitalisation of £2 trillion. The next 250 between them only amount to £300 billion and those below that even less. You clearly have no clue whatsoever about what you are talking about. You'll fit in well in Frankfurt. Off you go. Hold on foxy, The all-share is the 100 + 250 + small cap That is almost 100% of the market. I don't often agree with Obelix but he is spot on in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 ..........tell you what! in their heart of hearts,both Cameron and Corbyn want to be out of the EU! the clues have been around a long time. Based on the actions of both gentlemen during this campaign I can do nothing but agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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