Guest Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) There have been precedence demonstrated a number of times over the years in other EU countries where such referendum results have been ignored. With this referendum having no legal standing it makes this result ultimately being pointless even more likely. With British voters always mostly electing Eurosceptic MEP's, UKIP winning the last EU elections, and a victory for the leave campaign, there clearly is a mandate for Britain to leave the EU. The Labour party are in no position to brazenly ignore this mandate and campaign to cancel Brexit. If they do, outside of London they could end up being virtually wiped out. Edited August 11, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 With British voters always mostly electing Eurosceptic MEP's, UKIP winning the last EU elections, and a victory for the leave campaign, there clearly is a mandate for Britain to leave the EU. The Labour party are in no position to brazenly ignore this mandate and campaign to cancel Brexit. If they do, outside of London they could end up being virtually wiped out. There's no clear mandate 37% of the electorate voted to leave in a non-legally binding referendum. How can that be a clear mandate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 There's no clear mandate 37% of the electorate voted to leave in a non-legally binding referendum. How can that be a clear mandate? I wonder if the vote had gone the other way you'd have lol'd at someone writing this post in annoyance of an IN result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if the vote had gone the other way you'd have lol'd at someone writing this post in annoyance of an IN result. No mate I'd have been worried the issue wasn't settled As should you be. Because it isn't. How can it be on 37%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 There's no clear mandate 37% of the electorate voted to leave in a non-legally binding referendum. How can that be a clear mandate? Let's be honest it's as clear as we are going to get. You could hold a referendum tomorrow and get the same result. Although the sky hasn't fallen in yet (although it will at some point) you might get a result where the number who vote leave grows. It might go the other way - it will still be very very tight and most people are pretty entrenched in their views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Let's be honest it's as clear as we are going to get. You could hold a referendum tomorrow and get the same result. Although the sky hasn't fallen in yet (although it will at some point) you might get a result where the number who vote leave grows. It might go the other way - it will still be very very tight and most people are pretty entrenched in their views. Tomorrow maybe you would get the same result. In six months maybe not. You have to wait for the economic impact to take effect. In economic hard times people look for scapegoats. It was the immigrants in June 2016. In January 2017 it could be Theresa May for pushing on with Brexit. People are fickle In January May could be more despised than a homeless Latvian criminal killing and cooking a swan on the banks of the river Rother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 With British voters always mostly electing Eurosceptic MEP's, UKIP winning the last EU elections, and a victory for the leave campaign, there clearly is a mandate for Britain to leave the EU. The Labour party are in no position to brazenly ignore this mandate and campaign to cancel Brexit. If they do, outside of London they could end up being virtually wiped out. Labour have never said they would ignore the result. Owen Smith has said that any new deal negotiated would be put to the country in another referendum to accept or not. This will effectively be the second referendum but with actual facts in what the new deal will be. So with all the Leavers wanting to exercise their democratic right, are you going to be hypocrites now and not allow the country to decide if we should be given the opportunity to accept any new trade agreement or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Labour have never said they would ignore the result. Owen Smith has said that any new deal negotiated would be put to the country in another referendum to accept or not. This will effectively be the second referendum but with actual facts in what the new deal will be. So with all the Leavers wanting to exercise their democratic right, are you going to be hypocrites now and not allow the country to decide if we should be given the opportunity to accept any new trade agreement or not? Look, nobody is going to ignore the result. The fact is that 52% of people who voted wanted to leave. That is important and we all know the EU isn't perfect. In fact people like Nick Clegg and the LibDems who are unreserved supporters of the EU seem a bit odd, and mildly deranged. It's unhealthy to be totally pro-EU. But the fact is that everything is pointing to a whole world of economic crap if we leave. The fact that the markets are so calm is probably more of a reflection on the fact that everybody now realises that leaving would be economic suicide and not a viable route to take. IMO now is the time to take that two speed EU and turn it into a three or four speed EU. Step back from the madness, stay in on nominal terms (our terms) but make it primarily a trade relationship. Back to basics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Thanks. back at ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Labour have never said they would ignore the result. Owen Smith has said that any new deal negotiated would be put to the country in another referendum to accept or not. This will effectively be the second referendum but with actual facts in what the new deal will be. So with all the Leavers wanting to exercise their democratic right, are you going to be hypocrites now and not allow the country to decide if we should be given the opportunity to accept any new trade agreement or not? My bold How many times were we the public asked when some trade deal was agreed via the EU? The public were never given the opportunity to accept any of the EU led trade agreements and what about the TTP deal being done behind closed doors? The remainers lost, get over it and quit whining and deal with it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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