phil752 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Nope. The British did it themselves. You know about overfishing right? you mean when the Spanish got through loop holes by hiring British skippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Seriously? Not that old chestnut about the EU destroying the British fishing industry? Is it really an old chestnut? = http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/brexit-may-best-thing-britains-fishing-industry/ Brexit looks like it could be a good deal for the British fishing industry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Sorry? I was off doing something else. These is exactly where we were a couple of days ago. I highlighted energy policy and agricultural subsidies. We exchanged links and comments for a while with me trying to justify my dislike of EU energy policy. Do we need to go through it all again? So you'd like to go back to being a really big polluter then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 So you'd like to go back to being a really big polluter then? That will be definitely on the cards, particularly if the economy tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 There was a very long term decline in fish stocks due to overfishing. At the time when action was urgently needed to reverse this trend, the fishing waters around Europe were collectivised and handled by the EEC (later the EU). A 40 year policy of tradable quotas, created a very complicated sharing scheme for European fisherman, and crucially led directly to the pointless dumping of absolutely masses of dead fish back into the sea. This meant that not only were fish stocks being depleted just as they were without controls, but also that the fisherman found it increasingly hard to make a living as this ridiculous non-solution meant that fish were killed but not sold. Basically the EU exacerbated a problem that they were brought in to solve and then sat on it exacerbating it further and further and further literally for decades, refusing to change policy so as to actually start sorting it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Interesting read about fishing and the EU http://ukandeu.ac.uk/what-would-brexit-really-mean-for-the-uks-fishing-industry/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Interesting read about fishing and the EU http://ukandeu.ac.uk/what-would-brexit-really-mean-for-the-uks-fishing-industry/ yep read it did you read the links http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2821284/EU-lets-one-Dutch-ship-net-QUARTER-England-s-fishing-quota-Holland-holds-23-permits.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 yep read it did you read the links http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2821284/EU-lets-one-Dutch-ship-net-QUARTER-England-s-fishing-quota-Holland-holds-23-permits.html I did yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I did yes. as i said earlier that they use the loop hole of either having the skipper British or (did not know until reading the article part of the crew British) to access our quota's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 So you'd like to go back to being a really big polluter then? No. we've been though this. There are clean alternative and there are low co2 alternatives. Renewables are a dead end and to mandate them at the European level is lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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