Crosser Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Unemployment in the UK fell by 60,000 between October and December to 1.69 million, according to the Office for National Statistics. The rate of unemployment was unchanged from a month ago at 5.1%, maintaining a decade-low rate. More than 31.4 million people are in work, the highest figure since records began in 1971. I have a blinkered right wing friend that blames Labour for increasing the number of claimants claiming sickness benefit; yet I have seen graphs of a gradual increase in disability claimants. To me the vote leave vote was about people not working and 'sponging', where are these people if unemployment is on the decline? And there was silly old me, thinking it was mainly about immigration :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 Said this before. Its exactly like the YTS a decade or two ago. Only this time they send them back to college on a 6 week course. It is called employability. they tick them off as "working". YTS, get as many to join = lower unemployment. Employability, get as many on the course = lower unemployment. I am told that these days single mothers go into training because its easier than work and they get loads of benefits, They start with an access course to go to uni, and then just keep going all the way to a masters degree. They get child care and student grants, that they will probably never pay off. ---------- Post added 10-07-2016 at 21:45 ---------- And there was silly old me, thinking it was mainly about immigration :blush: Its not really that bad, so long as the immigrants are working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I am told that these days single mothers go into training because its easier than work and they get loads of benefits, They start with an access course to go to uni, and then just keep going all the way to a masters degree. They get child care and student grants, that they will probably never pay off. ---------- Post added 10-07-2016 at 21:45 ---------- Its not really that bad, so long as the immigrants are working. It might go to zero, Although car wash prices may go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Luthor Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I am told that these days single mothers go into training because its easier than work and they get loads of benefits, They start with an access course to go to uni, and then just keep going all the way to a masters degree. They get child care and student grants, that they will probably never pay off. By whom?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I have a blinkered right wing friend that blames Labour for increasing the number of claimants claiming sickness benefit; yet I have seen graphs of a gradual increase in disability claimants. To me the vote leave vote was about people not working and 'sponging', where are these people if unemployment is on the decline? Isnt this government vilified for bringing in the stringent disability assessments? This is completely from memory but when Ann Widdecombe did her TV show taking on the The Benefits Culture, she found a town that a majority of its working population were on some kind of disability benefit. She later found a man who was on this benefit because his hand hurt. Im not saying the current method of testing claimants validity is working, but it does seem Labour allowed people to languish on disability benefits without good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 By whom?.... A right wing friend ---------- Post added 11-07-2016 at 10:32 ---------- Im not saying the current method of testing claimants validity is working, but it does seem Labour allowed people to languish on disability benefits without good reason. Disability claims have been going up under all Governments, even Tory ones. Is it just a Labour problem, in your opinion, the Tories have been in power for 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I am told that these days single mothers go into training because its easier than work and they get loads of benefits, They start with an access course to go to uni, and then just keep going all the way to a masters degree. They get child care and student grants, that they will probably never pay off. At least they have a qualification at the end of it all. When I was unemployed for a time a few years ago, I asked about training courses I could take to help with my job hunting prospects. I was looked at like I had just asked for jus primae noctis with the guys wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 At least they have a qualification at the end of it all. When I was unemployed for a time a few years ago, I asked about training courses I could take to help with my job hunting prospects. I was looked at like I had just asked for jus primae noctis with the guys wife. I know someone that is doing criminology, and maybe going on to do a masters degree; not sure if its just for fun or to find a job. I dont know if people are taking advantage of the system that allows them to get thousands in student loans, with little prospect of them being paid back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Disability claims have been going up under all Governments, even Tory ones. Is it just a Labour problem, in your opinion, the Tories have been in power for 6 years. As our population increases the proportion of those on benefits of all kinds will always increase. Its the rate of increase that is the issue and it was always thought that Labour allowed too many people obtain disability benefits. This was highlighted in the Ann Widdecombe TV show. I suggest you watch it if you can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookedspire Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 You can take figures bend and twist them as much as you like to suit your political ideology its all about winning votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now