The legacy of Cameron and Osborne

[El Cid]

And, it's an interesting fact that the Tories built more council houses in 1996 than Labour did in their 13 years in charge.

 

I just looked that up, council house building has been going down since the 1980s; almost no council houses have been built since 1993. Certainly in the tens of hundreds rather than than tens of thousands.

[crookedspire]

I'm just glad both have fallen from power I could say more but they have fallen into histories great dust bin.

[I1L2T3]

I'm just glad both have fallen from power I could say more but they have fallen into histories great dust bin.

 

Worse than that. They will be infamous. Bizarrely the only PM of the first 15 years of this century who will emerge with a smidgeon of credit will be Brown and even them only for his actions over a few short days when he prevented a global economic inferno. Granted he did help start the fire though.

 

As for Cameron and Osborne their legacy is appalling. It really is. Ill-conceived economic experiments of the type that a 6th form economics student would devise, the break-up of the UK, Brexit, destabilisation of Europe. They are going to take some beating. Disastrous.

[newcomer01]

I actually enjoyed reading your opinion till it was changed from people being loonies to the situation being loony. Not quite sure how you were shown how to debate a point without name calling but it does appear to have not worked.

In my opinion the quality of debate put forward in the referendum is yet another nail in the coffin of British democracy.The practice of shouting ,interrupting and dare I say ,telling outright lies to make a point is bang out of order.

You name Footy.Could you not have gone back any further.Even though this is about Cameroon and Ozzy ,lets face it we aare living their legacy.

I fail to see how you arrive at the entrenched hatred of "the rich" .I think that this is a general term used to make an untrue point which really is common.

 

I think that if you listen to a porper debater ,you really have to look at Mr Corbyn.No swearing,shouting ,name calling,or lies. Consumate professional I would say.Perhaps a good role model for debating a point.

But just take a generalistic view of Cameron and Osborne.Six years at the helm,Five of them being subjued to a degree by Cleggy( thats him with the knives in his back) and One year by himself . I don`t think that I have to go over what has happened in the last year or so.

Mr Osborne,it didn`t take long for Mrs .May to unload now did it.In my opinion.you do not get rid of your best player now do you.

 

Now you see what I have done .I have made various points without without having to ellaborate or even name calling.

[Ted Heath]

I actually enjoyed reading your opinion till it was changed from people being loonies to the situation being loony. Not quite sure how you were shown how to debate a point without name calling but it does appear to have not worked.

In my opinion the quality of debate put forward in the referendum is yet another nail in the coffin of British democracy.The practice of shouting ,interrupting and dare I say ,telling outright lies to make a point is bang out of order.

You name Footy.Could you not have gone back any further.Even though this is about Cameroon and Ozzy ,lets face it we aare living their legacy.

I fail to see how you arrive at the entrenched hatred of "the rich" .I think that this is a general term used to make an untrue point which really is common.

 

I think that if you listen to a porper debater ,you really have to look at Mr Corbyn.No swearing,shouting ,name calling,or lies. Consumate professional I would say.Perhaps a good role model for debating a point.

But just take a generalistic view of Cameron and Osborne.Six years at the helm,Five of them being subjued to a degree by Cleggy( thats him with the knives in his back) and One year by himself . I don`t think that I have to go over what has happened in the last year or so.

Mr Osborne,it didn`t take long for Mrs .May to unload now did it.In my opinion.you do not get rid of your best player now do you.

 

Now you see what I have done .I have made various points without without having to ellaborate or even name calling.

 

 

 

You dont call people names you merely belittle those you see to disagree with by putting the letter Y after their names.

 

What points have you made? You clearly dont think much of Clegg/Osborne/Cameron, despite the fact that they created, from a disaster, the fastest growing economy in the developed world, a higher level of employment than ever before in UK history, opened the possibility of regenerating the north of England and reduced the deficit by a third.

 

Corbyn on the other hand, polite, quiet, no policies, surrounded by a bunch of thugs who insult women, jews, other minorities, call all Tories "********". Is without a shadow of a doubt the most ineffective, lame excuse for an opposition leader in UK history. Disowned by those who see him up close, voted against his own party over 500 times whilst an MP, yet has the temerity to expect support from those he regularly betrayed. Any supporter of this man is a member of the loony left.

 

Not an insult, merely a description of a political position. (which is barmy).

 

I now address your question regarding what the loony left would attain for their children if their policies were implemented. As they have yet to outline policies this is difficult so I must refer back in time to the policies espoused in the past, without listing them, safe to say that no matter what they are they never stood the test of scrutiny. The loony left stand "against" things, their utterances are never positive. They hate, (see my list in earlier posting) they envy, they sneer, at achievement, at betterment, at anything or anyone who tries to rise above the mediocrity they themselves are only capable of. The loony left sloganise, berate and belittle.

 

Their lunacy is only equaled by their mediocrity in personal achievement and their contribution to society.

Edited July 27, 2016 by Ted Heath
clarification

[newcomer01]

You really are a bitter and twisted person.The thread is about the legacy of Cameron and Osborne .I merely commented about the name calling. This you took it to mean going on a further tirade about a stereotypical left oposition.

 

The Y behind the name was partly humour .Sorry for that ,my Mrs constantly reminds me that I am not funny.

 

The strange thing looking at your comments about ,"The loony left sloganise, berate and belittle." oh how I laughed as that was the point that I made about you.

 

Regarding Clegg,Osborne and Cameron .You are quite correct that I have very little regard for any of them.

 

Though under the circumstances its always nice to hear from people who thought Cameron and Osborne policies so good ,especially when they have not been affected by them .

[I1L2T3]

You dont call people names you merely belittle those you see to disagree with by putting the letter Y after their names.

 

What points have you made? You clearly dont think much of Clegg/Osborne/Cameron, despite the fact that they created, from a disaster, the fastest growing economy in the developed world, a higher level of employment than ever before in UK history, opened the possibility of regenerating the north of England and reduced the deficit by a third.

 

Corbyn on the other hand, polite, quiet, no policies, surrounded by a bunch of thugs who insult women, jews, other minorities, call all Tories "********". Is without a shadow of a doubt the most ineffective, lame excuse for an opposition leader in UK history. Disowned by those who see him up close, voted against his own party over 500 times whilst an MP, yet has the temerity to expect support from those he regularly betrayed. Any supporter of this man is a member of the loony left.

 

Not an insult, merely a description of a political position. (which is barmy).

 

I now address your question regarding what the loony left would attain for their children if their policies were implemented. As they have yet to outline policies this is difficult so I must refer back in time to the policies espoused in the past, without listing them, safe to say that no matter what they are they never stood the test of scrutiny. The loony left stand "against" things, their utterances are never positive. They hate, (see my list in earlier posting) they envy, they sneer, at achievement, at betterment, at anything or anyone who tries to rise above the mediocrity they themselves are only capable of. The loony left sloganise, berate and belittle.

 

Their lunacy is only equaled by their mediocrity in personal achievement and their contribution to society.

 

This is not about things that havent happened and are some kind of prediction in your head based on your own prejudices.

 

It's about things that have happened, i.e. a legacy. You can't twist it into judgement about your imagined performance as PM of somebody who never has been or never will be PM. At best that makes it look like you are arguing that Cameron and Osborne messing up is OK because they are slightly less rubbish than you imagine Corbyn would be.

[Michael_W]

Cameron and Osborne were the legacy of 13 years of Labour

[Ted Heath]

You really are a bitter and twisted person.The thread is about the legacy of Cameron and Osborne .I merely commented about the name calling. This you took it to mean going on a further tirade about a stereotypical left oposition.

 

The Y behind the name was partly humour .Sorry for that ,my Mrs constantly reminds me that I am not funny.

 

The strange thing looking at your comments about ,"The loony left sloganise, berate and belittle." oh how I laughed as that was the point that I made about you.

 

Regarding Clegg,Osborne and Cameron .You are quite correct that I have very little regard for any of them.

 

Though under the circumstances its always nice to hear from people who thought Cameron and Osborne policies so good ,especially when they have not been affected by them .

 

Your wife is right. So am I.

 

---------- Post added 28-07-2016 at 16:21 ----------

 

Cameron and Osborne were the legacy of 13 years of Labour [/quote

 

 

All succeeding governments inherit the legacies of their forerunners.

 

In Camerons case he inherited a disaster. He left the country economically strong, with more people in work than ever before.

 

New Labours legacy from Majors government was a strong economy amongst other positives. Thatchers inheritance from Callaghan was economic distress, amongst other negatives.

 

Notice a pattern yet?

[mossdog]

You dont call people names you merely belittle those you see to disagree with by putting the letter Y after their names.

 

What points have you made? You clearly dont think much of Clegg/Osborne/Cameron, despite the fact that they created, from a disaster, the fastest growing economy in the developed world, a higher level of employment than ever before in UK history, opened the possibility of regenerating the north of England and reduced the deficit by a third.

 

Corbyn on the other hand, polite, quiet, no policies, surrounded by a bunch of thugs who insult women, jews, other minorities, call all Tories "********". Is without a shadow of a doubt the most ineffective, lame excuse for an opposition leader in UK history. Disowned by those who see him up close, voted against his own party over 500 times whilst an MP, yet has the temerity to expect support from those he regularly betrayed. Any supporter of this man is a member of the loony left.

 

Not an insult, merely a description of a political position. (which is barmy).

 

I now address your question regarding what the loony left would attain for their children if their policies were implemented. As they have yet to outline policies this is difficult so I must refer back in time to the policies espoused in the past, without listing them, safe to say that no matter what they are they never stood the test of scrutiny. The loony left stand "against" things, their utterances are never positive. They hate, (see my list in earlier posting) they envy, they sneer, at achievement, at betterment, at anything or anyone who tries to rise above the mediocrity they themselves are only capable of. The loony left sloganise, berate and belittle.

 

Their lunacy is only equaled by their mediocrity in personal achievement and their contribution to society.

.......took the words out of millions of peoples mouths with that post,but not many of them live in South Yorkshire!