samssong Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 We in Sheffield can be proud of our City of sanctuary teaching immigrants new skills along with free education as to how a democracy works. However the question must arise as to what happens when all the wars are over, when the Country"s such as Syria , Somalia, Iraq along with other Eastern and African Countries then need these citizens to return home and help to rebuild their own economy and infrastructure . Will these people be flocking back ( not only from the U.K but Europe as a whole ) or will they just ignore the situation and remain in the Country"s that provided sanctuary in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Considering how many years its been since we went into Iraq, I think it will be decades before these people can return. And after so long in the West, would they want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Having spoken to a fair few people from that area they do generally wish to move back, and they are quite up front about it, you don't even have to ask as they'll bring it up themselves. They are well aware of the situation though, and absolutely won't go home if it's still dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 A man from Syria we know recently lost his sister and her family to a bomb. His parents were already dead. There is very little for him to go back to other than bad memories. However, a Lybian I know is very keen to return once the country settles, he came here as a political refugee (upset Khadaffi somehow) years ago. He too lost family members but he wants to help create the Lybia he knows it can be. It is different for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I knew someone who's family were originally from Homs, they left there when fighting started moving to Yemen. Only a few short years later Yemen descended into chaos and they were refugees once more. You can understand that some people will move back, but only when it's definitely stable again, not some brokered half-peace in a shattered land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 We in Sheffield can be proud of our City of sanctuary teaching immigrants new skills along with free education as to how a democracy works. However the question must arise as to what happens when all the wars are over, when the Country"s such as Syria , Somalia, Iraq along with other Eastern and African Countries then need these citizens to return home and help to rebuild their own economy and infrastructure . Will these people be flocking back ( not only from the U.K but Europe as a whole ) or will they just ignore the situation and remain in the Country"s that provided sanctuary in the first place. If you fled a civil war and invasion and settled somewhere else for a decade and made a life for yourself (and your children). Do you think you'd leave again the minute someone declared it 'safe'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpist Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Sheffield and Rotherham were places where refugees from Kosovo placed. The number that stayed on after the war ended will surely be in statistics somewhere. This could give a sort of guide. I assume many will have a life here and not wish to go back, just as many Poles did after WW11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 There are still direct descendants of the Huguenots living here. We also took in a lot of Jewish refugees in the 30s and 40s who stayed on. Even some PoWs stayed on. Bert Trautmann only died 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennpickard Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Samssong, you said when " All the wars are over.' Nice thought and wish it would come about one day. But this is the Middle East, where wars have gone on for 5,000 years. Many of the immigrants/refugees the UK has taken in over past 30 years are from the Middle East and eastern Europe. Most of these countries do not have a history of a "One man one vote" system, and the ME states don't intend to, in their drive to have only religion manage and direct the government. So not a progressive environment to go back to. So I believe many immigrants will stay put once they have jobs, speak English, have children and settle down. Some entreprenurial types may drift back to help to rebuild, but ME politics will keep most immigrants/refugees in the UK and the other western countries they have moved to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 A man from Syria we know recently lost his sister and her family to a bomb. His parents were already dead. There is very little for him to go back to other than bad memories. However, a Lybian I know is very keen to return once the country settles, he came here as a political refugee (upset Khadaffi somehow) years ago. He too lost family members but he wants to help create the Lybia he knows it can be. It is different for everybody. I think this post sums it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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