The end of the Labour party

[I1L2T3]

You really need sleep

 

Long day tomorrow

 

Yeah it was. Stayed up until 3am savouring every second of it.

 

Thanks for the advice.

[Jonny5]

Yeah it was. Stayed up until 3am savouring every second of it.

 

Thanks for the advice.

You savour the country ending up with no government at the one point in history when it needs one?

 

What a selfish and perverse individual you are.

[Thorpist]

Go on, how many examples can you come up with?

It is a matter of record Corbyns voting record.

If you wish to look at the full record it is there to view.

My question was not on the right or wrong of his voting but on his ability to get MPs to accept his leadership when he clearly followed his own path

[banjodeano]

Now that Corbyn has entrenched his position as leader of the Labour party how loyal will the Labour MPs feel towards him?

As he has a history of not following the leadership he will have to be very convincing to take the MPs with him.

 

well, when they were interviewing the backstabbers last night, they were literally groveling, i would still like to see them de selected in the boundary changes

[sgtkate]

Go on, how many examples can you come up with?

 

Oh come on now, even as a Corbyn supporter I accept he's consistently voted against his party whip. 428 times to date:

 

http://revolts.co.uk/?p=932

[I1L2T3]

You savour the country ending up with no government at the one point in history when it needs one?

 

What a selfish and perverse individual you are.

 

No need to get personal

 

It's more about what we need to avoid. May with a mandate would have butchered our country. The list of things she had planned were disastrous for a lot of us.

 

Time for another election, and more time for progressive parties to build momentum.

[sgtkate]

It is a matter of record Corbyns voting record.

If you wish to look at the full record it is there to view.

My question was not on the right or wrong of his voting but on his ability to get MPs to accept his leadership when he clearly followed his own path

 

It's a difficult one to be honest. Corbyn has never changed his views (except on the EU) or his principles to align with his party. Most of the MPs who were against him have flip flopped most of their political lives, if any of them were Labour in the 70s and 80s then they were part of a socialist party like they are now, so if they veered away from that since then it shows they've engineered their own stance to keep being elected. Corbyn has never done that to the best of my knowledge. He's been the same guy with the same views all of his life and he was re-elected time and time again with increasing majority because of that. I'm sure a lot of the MPs will fall into line simply out of opportunism.

[geared]

It's more about what we need to avoid. May with a mandate would have butchered our country. The list of things she had planned were disastrous for a lot of us.

 

Time for another election, and more time for progressive parties to build momentum.

 

Can't the two main partys work together for the good of the country for once?

 

The public don't want a hard Tory brexit, neither do they want a Labour pushover, all they want is a good deal that can benefit everyone.

It shouldn't be about party politics, political point scoring or shady backroom deals with your rich mates.

[I1L2T3]

Can't the two main partys work together for the good of the country for once?

 

The public don't want a hard Tory brexit, neither do they want a Labour pushover, all they want is a good deal that can benefit everyone.

It shouldn't be about party politics, political point scoring or shady backroom deals with your rich mates.

 

It's not a bad idea to be fair

[dutch]

No need to get personal

 

It's more about what we need to avoid. May with a mandate would have butchered our country. The list of things she had planned were disastrous for a lot of us.

 

Time for another election, and more time for progressive parties to build momentum.

 

She didn't have a real mandate. There were no commitments in it, could have been all lies. She was definitely not planning to shift finances towards social structure improvements.

 

I also question what would have happened if this election had lasted a proper two or three months. Six weeks is not enough for national election.

 

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Can't the two main partys work together for the good of the country for once?

 

The public don't want a hard Tory brexit, neither do they want a Labour pushover, all they want is a good deal that can benefit everyone.

It shouldn't be about party politics, political point scoring or shady backroom deals with your rich mates.

 

Understand your wishes, a normal person trying to get things done could think this way. Don't think it is possible. Politicians have a certain way of messing around, backstabbing, you cant trust them.