The end of the Labour party

[truman]

Can't the two main partys work together for the good of the country for once?

 

The public don't want a hard Tory brexit, neither do they want a Labour pushover, all they want is a good deal that can benefit everyone.

It shouldn't be about party politics, political point scoring or shady backroom deals with your rich mates.

 

It's a cracking idea but it won't happen due to political dogma on both sides...

[Hairyloon]

Oh come on now, even as a Corbyn supporter I accept he's consistently voted against his party whip. 428 times to date:

 

The point was not in doubt.

The relevant question is upon the points on which he resisted the whip: loyalty is no virtue when it is misdirected.

 

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You savour the country ending up with no government at the one point in history when it needs one?

 

And why does it need one? Is that anybody's fault but the government's?

[sgtkate]

The point was not in doubt.

The relevant question is upon the points on which he resisted the whip: loyalty is no virtue when it is misdirected

 

Oh my apologies I misunderstood your point. And I agree

[hobinfoot]

Well I've got to admit I was wrong I thought Labour wouldn't do this well. I hope things will be ok now and the parties do their best for the country instead of the tribalism of the past but unfortunately I don't think it will happen.

[geared]

Labour did well, but Torys did half the work for them.

Their campaign was terrible and the manifesto was horrific, they really are out of touch.

 

The Lib Dems are lost in the woods at the moment, they were no-where in this election which is quite sad.

 

Corbyn has come on in leaps and bounds though, he's still abit of a nutter but he's starting to look and sound like a proper statesman.

[banjodeano]

Labour did well, but Torys did half the work for them.

Their campaign was terrible and the manifesto was horrific, they really are out of touch.

 

The Lib Dems are lost in the woods at the moment, they were no-where in this election which is quite sad.

 

Corbyn has come on in leaps and bounds though, he's still abit of a nutter but he's starting to look and sound like a proper statesman.

Respect to you for that post..

[melthebell]

well fair play to labour, i myself thought they were finished after all the goings in with Corbyn and co but theyve definitely shifted things back in the right direction.

A proper alternative to the tories AND gaining on them in the polls, closing the gap.

[Ridgewalk]

It's a difficult one to be honest. Corbyn has never changed his views (except on the EU) or his principles to align with his party. Most of the MPs who were against him have flip flopped most of their political lives, if any of them were Labour in the 70s and 80s then they were part of a socialist party like they are now, so if they veered away from that since then it shows they've engineered their own stance to keep being elected. Corbyn has never done that to the best of my knowledge. He's been the same guy with the same views all of his life and he was re-elected time and time again with increasing majority because of that. I'm sure a lot of the MPs will fall into line simply out of opportunism.

 

Agreed always consistent. He was never a " Remainer" but because it was Labour policy to support Remain he did so reluctantly.

How well would Labour have done if the Chukka Umuna's, Hilary Benn's, Michael Dugher's, Angela Eagle's had gotten behind Corbyn from the start. I can barely write those names without feeling queasy

 

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Oh come on now, even as a Corbyn supporter I accept he's consistently voted against his party whip. 428 times to date:

 

http://revolts.co.uk/?p=932

 

Thought you were a Greeny and not too impressed with Corbyn ?

[sgtkate]

Agreed always consistent. He was never a " Remainer" but because it was Labour policy to support Remain he did so reluctantly.

How well would Labour have done if the Chukka Umuna's, Hilary Benn's, Michael Dugher's, Angela Eagle's had gotten behind Corbyn from the start. I can barely write those names without feeling queasy

 

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Thought you were a Greeny and not too impressed with Corbyn ?

 

I have openly flip-flopped about Corbyn. I thought the Labour manifesto was excellent and something I could get behind. My heart is Green though but this time around my vote was red. I also think Corbyn has shown he could be an excellent leader lately, he had some bad patches but he's come out of this looking like a true leader.

[melthebell]

I have openly flip-flopped about Corbyn. I thought the Labour manifesto was excellent and something I could get behind. My heart is Green though but this time around my vote was red. I also think Corbyn has shown he could be an excellent leader lately, he had some bad patches but he's come out of this looking like a true leader.

 

greens or libs wouldve been for me, but to really hurt or oust the tories a vote for labour was the only option, a vote for the others wouldve been a waste.