The end of the Labour party

[I1L2T3]

How does it? Are you blind to what happened exactly one month ago.

 

Despite his surge in popularity and his alleged increasing supporters (a lot of which is fuelled by faux celebrity endorsements and horse crap undeliverable policy soundbites in any event), when it came to the polls and population had their say Corbyn fell short of a majority by 64 seats and lagged behind the tories by 56 seats.

 

I have said earlier that we all agree that May took a battering but irrelevent of that Corbyn failed to deliver even when going up against supposedly the worst PM and Government in decades. If he cant beat that, what hope would he have against a more popular Tory face and during a brighter period for the nation.

 

I have said before. He still has a huge mountain to climb and preaching to his disciples is not going to change that position.

 

Unless something dramatic happens (even May being ousted as leader....which will just be replaced with another Tory) the next scheduled election will be May 2022.

 

Lets see if Corbynmania can last another 5 years.

 

You've got to take your head out of the sand. May has destroyed the Tory's standings with the public. She has also unintentionally caused the start of the dismantling of the twin Tory pillars of austerity and extreme Brexit. That is a disaster for the Tories. They have no policy on the shelf to replace that and are scratching around for popular policies. They are badly out of touch with the under 50s.

 

There is every chance something dramatic will happen. In fact it seems certain. May makes mistake after mistake, and each mistake damages the party further.

[Hairyloon]

They are badly out of touch with the under 50s.

 

Fixed that for you...

[LeMaquis]

....the truth is May is the prime minister and Jeremy is not.....

 

Just been on the news , May is still in power and after all this, time reading all these threads you would have thought Jeremy was leading the country

 

Now there's irony.

 

"Theresa May asks Jeremy Corbyn to help deliver Brexit and support her policies amid Tory leadership plots".

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/09/theresa-may-asks-jeremy-corbyn-help-deliver-brexit-support-policies/

 

Vote Theresa, Get Jeremy - the new leader of the Tory Party.

Edited July 10, 2017 by LeMaquis

[L00b]

<...> Are you blind to what happened exactly one month ago.

 

Despite his surge in popularity and his alleged increasing supporters (a lot of which is fuelled by faux celebrity endorsements and horse crap undeliverable policy soundbites in any event), when it came to the polls and population had their say Corbyn fell short of a majority by 64 seats and lagged behind the tories by 56 seats.

 

I have said earlier that we all agree that May took a battering but irrelevent of that Corbyn failed to deliver even when going up against supposedly the worst PM and Government in decades. <...>

An aspect you've perhaps conveniently left out however, is that until the GE campaign started, whence MSM had to respect parity of reporting across the parties, Corbyn had not had the benefit of pushing his messages in the clear.

 

Now, we can certainly attack his policies on their viability, his duplicity about Brexit, his choice of inner circle types (Abbot, Mc Donnell, etc.) and more.

 

But IMHO it'd be pretty short-sighted to write the man off, when what he's achieved is arguably on the back of 5-ish weeks of campaigning (moreover, beset by as much dog whistling from the right as the referendum campaign was), not a year and a half of party leadership.

There is every chance something dramatic will happen. <...>

Like David Davis getting the PM gig. That'd do it.

Now there's irony.

 

"Theresa May asks Jeremy Corbyn to help deliver Brexit and support her policies amid Tory leadership plots".

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/09/theresa-may-asks-jeremy-corbyn-help-deliver-brexit-support-policies/

 

Vote Theresa, Get Jeremy - the new leader of the Tory Party.

I don't believe there's one atom of shame or integrity in her: any and all means whatsoever, down to an ad hoc 'alliance' with Corbyn, to her end of clinging to No.10.

 

If it looks like desperation, walks like desperation, sounds like desperation <...>: the Tories' night of the long knives isn't for long now

Edited July 10, 2017 by L00b

[Jonny5]

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jul/23/jeremy-corbyn-denies-promising-to-wipe-student-debts

 

No lies. No flipping flopping. No U turn. He didn't even change his mind.

 

What actually happened is we all got the wrong end of the stick. Silly us! Sorry Great Leader!!

 

Very sportingly the Guardian hasn't opened up that article to opinions because no one needs to have a say on key election promises ideas.

[Ridgewalk]

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jul/23/jeremy-corbyn-denies-promising-to-wipe-student-debts

 

No lies. No flipping flopping. No U turn. He didn't even change his mind.

 

What actually happened is we all got the wrong end of the stick. Silly us! Sorry Great Leader!!

 

Very sportingly the Guardian hasn't opened up that article to opinions because no one needs to have a say on key election promises ideas.

 

Yes you're right the Guardian is well known for its pro-Corbyn, pro Labour bias.

Meanwhile back at coalition of chaos HQ

 

---------- Post added 24-07-2017 at 07:35 ----------

 

An aspect you've perhaps conveniently left out however, is that until the GE campaign started, whence MSM had to respect parity of reporting across the parties, Corbyn had not had the benefit of pushing his messages in the clear.

 

Now, we can certainly attack his policies on their viability, his duplicity about Brexit, his choice of inner circle types (Abbot, Mc Donnell, etc.) and more.

 

But IMHO it'd be pretty short-sighted to write the man off, when what he's achieved is arguably on the back of 5-ish weeks of campaigning (moreover, beset by as much dog whistling from the right as the referendum campaign was), not a year and a half of party leadership.

Like David Davis getting the PM gig. That'd do it.

I don't believe there's one atom of shame or integrity in her: any and all means whatsoever, down to an ad hoc 'alliance' with Corbyn, to her end of clinging to No.10.

 

If it looks like desperation, walks like desperation, sounds like desperation <...>: the Tories' night of the long knives isn't for long now

 

Interesting isn't it, when she was in her former roles she kept her head down and ploughed on with apparent vigour "to get the job done". Yet after her elevation to the top slot it's apparent that she's not suited to leadership, humourless, thin skinned, anxious, only comfortable issuing instructions that her position power gives her, and seemingly incapable of thinking "out of the box".

No wonder her advisors wouldn't allow her to debate in any shape or form with Corbyn.

 

She reminds me of Gordon Brown whose ambition powered him to the top only to be found out as lacking in the human traits necessary to perform well.

[Jonny5]

Whataboutism at its finest.

 

Nothing to add about The Great Leaders deceit?

Edited July 24, 2017 by Jonny5

[I1L2T3]

Yes you're right the Guardian is well known for its pro-Corbyn, pro Labour bias.

Meanwhile back at coalition of chaos HQ

 

---------- Post added 24-07-2017 at 07:35 ----------

 

 

Interesting isn't it, when she was in her former roles she kept her head down and ploughed on with apparent vigour "to get the job done". Yet after her elevation to the top slot it's apparent that she's not suited to leadership, humourless, thin skinned, anxious, only comfortable issuing instructions that her position power gives her, and seemingly incapable of thinking "out of the box".

No wonder her advisors wouldn't allow her to debate in any shape or form with Corbyn.

 

She reminds me of Gordon Brown whose ambition powered him to the top only to be found out as lacking in the human traits necessary to perform well.

 

Get real.

 

The Guardian hates Corbyn and spent two years trying to destroy him.

 

As for May at the Home Office......she was responsible for multi-year failures to control immigration, failing to meet the targets her own party made. And she left us with a extremism crisis and a seriously depleted police service. She was a disaster.

[Jonny5]

But there is no editorial or opinion in the Guardian article? They are only reporting what he said?

 

Have you now reached a stage where any article or comment on the Great Leader that is not wholly gushing must be condemned without further thought?

 

Is it not worth some sort of questioning that he didn't know the cost but still implied that student debt would be wiped out? Is that not devious? Getting people's hopes up and buying votes In that way?

 

Fascinating.

Edited July 24, 2017 by Jonny5

[hackey lad]

But there is no editorial or opinion in the Guardian article? They are only reporting what he said?

 

Have you now reached a stage where any article or comment on the Great Leader that is not wholly gushing must be condemned without further thought?

 

Is it not worth some sort of questioning that he didn't know the cost but still implied that student debt would be wiped out? Is that not devious? Getting people's hopes up and buying votes In that way?

 

Fascinating.

 

good post , Bravo