The end of the Labour party

[unbeliever]

To be honest I want labour to lose every general election, but I don't want a situation where a totally inept and incompetent idiot runs the labour party so they are no effective opposition whatsoever. I suppose there a great many yahoos and street protesters who think this is a price worth paying and actually want to be in oposition because what they actually oppose is the entire form of UK democracy.

Odd isn't it that folk who are anti labour actually want labour to be an effective party because that is how democracy works. The folk who want corbin in charge of labour want him to destroy the party to the extent where they are reduced to a banner waving mob who march, protest, disrupt and deface posters.

Its a strange old world. It seems corbin appeals to folk who think a dancing banana is debating.

 

 

So true. Until faced with the real prospect of the death of the Labour party I would have expected my reaction to its demise to be one of great joy. In fact I started off this thread in that frame of mind only to come to realise that I'm actually quite sad about it.

 

A few years ago, it would have been okay. We could expect the Lib Dems to rise up and retake their place at the top of politics which they held or many years before the rise of Labour. But they're really not in any position to do so. Now if the anti-Corbyn Labour MPs were to defect to the Lib Dems rather than forming their own break-away party...

 

 

It seems to be we've done the main question here to death and we're going around in circles.

I would like to change the subject a little so I've started a new thread with a different but related question.

Who will replace Labour as the main "progressive" voice in parliament?

Of course I'm not King of the Forum or anything so it's just a suggestion.

Edited September 15, 2016 by unbeliever

[Padders]

And they explained that it is not a misspelling as such, but a portmanteau word/pun on the fact that Corbyn is assigning Labour to the bin.. hence Cor-bin.. Corbin.

 

lets change it to corwyn then

[Santo]

Alan Johnson was on the Matt Forde show last night. Amusing chap.

 

Whilst he didn't put the blame entirely on Corbyn for losing the referendum he said he wasn't as helpful as he might have been. Johnson ran the Labour campaign. He said because Corbyn is surrounded by people like Seumas Milne and John McConnell, who are fiercely anti-EU, Corbyn's message didn't get across as well as he wanted.

 

As an example he said speeches he'd prepared using the word 'I' were doctored to 'The Labour Party.' As in 'the Labour Party want us to remain in the EU.'

 

---------- Post added 15-09-2016 at 13:21 ----------

 

lets change it to corwyn then

 

No, that makes him look Welsh.

Edited September 15, 2016 by Santo

[alchresearch]

So true. Until faced with the real prospect of the death of the Labour party I would have expected my reaction to its demise to be one of great joy. In fact I started off this thread in that frame of mind only to come to realise that I'm actually quite sad about it.

 

My feelings are the same. I once voted Labour. I may do again at some point.

 

It made me laugh last year when both Labour and the Tories were saying "Vote Corbyn", but although its made the Tories leaps and bounds ahead, its a hollow victory, like winning the 100M against a little crippled boy.

[unbeliever]

My feelings are the same. I once voted Labour. I may do again at some point.

 

It made me laugh last year when both Labour and the Tories were saying "Vote Corbyn", but although its made the Tories leaps and bounds ahead, its a hollow victory, like winning the 100M against a little crippled boy.

 

 

Yes. Perhaps I went off bashing Labour when I could see that they were metaphorically curled up on the ground crying from the bashing Momentum have given them, and that Momentum were still kicking them and laughing about it.

[Solomon1]

lets change it to corwyn then

 

Like it Padders

 

[PeteMorris]

Mod Message:

 

Can we please stop the petty squabbling! It's pointless repeatedly asking the same question. If a poster doesn't wish to answer a particular question just accept it and move on. It's no big deal.

[Jeffrey Shaw]

Don't believe the media hype

 

Jeremy will secure leadership again

 

And then he can concentrate on the general election

Yes, he'll probably win the Labour Party leadership.

But when many of its MPs decamp, his concentration on a General Election almost four years hence will be irrelevant.

And, sad to say, he might be too by that time.

[Solomon1]

Yes, he'll probably win the Labour Party leadership.

But when many of its MPs decamp, his concentration on a General Election almost four years hence will be irrelevant.

And, sad to say, he might be too by that time.

 

He's easily going to win Jeffrey

 

Despite all the desperate gerrymandering

 

As for the rest, in the lap of the gods!

[Jeffrey Shaw]

Despite all the desperate gerrymandering

No. That expression means 'altering boundaries to maximise one's own voting strengths'- and he has not done that, at least.