The end of the Labour party

[Solomon1]

No. That expression means 'altering boundaries to maximise one's own voting strengths'- and he has not done that, at least.

 

You do know this is what the Tories are currently attempting?

[Jeffrey Shaw]

You do know this is what the Tories are currently attempting?

No. The Electoral Commission is an impartial body appointed by Parliament.

Anyone dissatisfied with its proposals can submit objections and counter-proposals.

Equalising constituencies is hardly bias.

[Solomon1]

No. The Electoral Commission is an impartial body appointed by Parliament.

Anyone dissatisfied with its proposals can submit objections and counter-proposals.

Equalising constituencies is hardly bias.

 

OK

 

So why post this?

 

No. That expression means 'altering boundaries to maximise one's own voting strengths'- and he has not done that, at least.

[Santo]

OK

 

So why post this?

 

Because it's not maximising Tory voting strengths. It's equalising constituency populations.....?

 

You no doubt disagree. But Mr Shaw has pointed out the commission is independent.

[pacifica]

Because it's not maximising Tory voting strengths. It's equalising constituency populations.....?

 

You no doubt disagree. But Mr Shaw has pointed out the commission is independent.

 

Some folk have yet to come to terms with the fact that labour is currently run by an unelectable idiot and it wouldn't really matter how you laid out the constituency boundaries because he would still be an unelectable idiot.

The good news for them is that when labour lose another 50 or even 100 seats at the next election they will be able to claim it is due to boundary changes and nothing to do with them getting 4 million votes less that the tories and 2 million less than voted labour in 2015.

Edited September 16, 2016 by pacifica

[Jeffrey Shaw]

Keep an eye open for the re-appearance of the name "Co-operative Party", as the banner for dissident Labour MPS: coming to a constituency near you soon?

[pacifica]

Keep an eye open for the re-appearance of the name "Co-operative Party", as the banner for dissident Labour MPS: coming to a constituency near you soon?

 

It was reported by the FT about a month ago that it was "the plan".

 

The Co-operative Party, which promotes businesses owned by workers and customers, is a separate entity from the Labour Party. However, since 1927, it has had an electoral agreement with Labour that members of both parties can contest elections as representatives of the Labour Co-operative Party.

 

Currently, there are 25 Labour MPs who are Co-op members, but the aim is to increase this to 100-plus. As a legally distinct entity that is recognised by the Electoral Commission, the Co-operative Party fits the requirement laid down by the Speaker of the House of Commons, Conservative MP John Bercow. He has reportedly stated that he can only recognise a different parliamentary opposition if it is registered with the Electoral Commission.

 

By gathering the support of more MPs than Corbyn can muster, the coup plotters hope to prevent any moves to de-select them from the Labour Party (removing them as candidates in the next election) and to apply to become the official opposition. As members of the Labour Co-op, the group will appoint their own parliamentary whips and draw up their own policies in areas “including Brexit and national security,” it is reported. Thus would enable them to change “the rules to elect the shadow cabinet so they can ‘surround’ and ‘smother’” Corbyn on the front benches, the Sunday Times reported.

[Solomon1]

No. The Electoral Commission is an impartial body appointed by Parliament.

Anyone dissatisfied with its proposals can submit objections and counter-proposals.

Equalising constituencies is hardly bias

 

That's not what this article implies:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/boundary-changes-labour-party-seats-mp

 

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"In an act of grotesque gerrymandering, some 23 Labour seats will be liquidated, hundreds of other seats affected and 2 million voters disenfranchised"

 

 

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[pacifica]

That's not what this article implies:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/boundary-changes-labour-party-seats-mp

 

---------- Post added 17-09-2016 at 00:14 ----------

 

"In an act of grotesque gerrymandering, some 23 Labour seats will be liquidated, hundreds of other seats affected and 2 million voters disenfranchised"

 

 

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Perhaps that's because its the Guardian.

[RonJeremy]

That's not what this article implies:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/boundary-changes-labour-party-seats-mp

 

---------- Post added 17-09-2016 at 00:14 ----------

 

"In an act of grotesque gerrymandering, some 23 Labour seats will be liquidated, hundreds of other seats affected and 2 million voters disenfranchised"

 

 

.....................................

 

Comedy article twisting the truth, desperately trying to hang on the the old biased boundaries and gerrymandered constituencies. The hypocrisy is jaw dropping. The lies and half truths are astounding.