The end of the Labour party

[Ridgewalk]

Wow. I've rarely read anything so disconnected from reality.

I should stay quiet really because I want Labour destroyed... But in the interests of good idealogical representation I suggest you look at the very impressive evidence against what you just said.

 

Be specific about my "disconnection ...." And must you be so offensive ?

[Jacktari]

UKIP when they had their raison d'être never had an MP elected, wunderkind Nigel failed to be elected seven times, they had two defectors from another party, one of whom lost his seat running under a UKIP ticket at the 2015 GE.

Nutall is an ex-Tory councillor, Wolfe was thumped back to the Tories by his UKIP mates, Farage is rumoured to be in line for the Lords nominated by an unelected Tory PM

 

What evidence is there to suggest UKIP will usurp,Labour ?

 

The problem with the Labour Party, and its core voters dates back many years.

To the early 70's and before, and is all to do with a certain newspaper.

 

The Daily Herald was the workers newspaper back in the 50's and 60's, and was considered the mouthpiece of the Labour party, and kept the working man aware of politics and general affairs.

 

For one reason or another it went out of business, probably due to the advent of TV.

It came back shortly afterward, as a left-wing paper called The Sun.

 

This paper too began to falter, but was taken over by one Rupert Murdoch.

 

He kept the name, but gradually began to change the political stance of the paper, from staunch left-wing, to hard right wing.

 

This was done gradually, and under cover of page 3 tits and bums, so the average thickoe worker did not realise.

 

The brainwashing was done so cleverly, that even today most people think The Sun is a working class newspaper.

It has reduced the political nous of the average working man from well informed and astute to practically zero.

 

As we see in the result of the recent referendum.

[banjodeano]

The problem with the Labour Party, and its core voters dates back many years.

To the early 70's and before, and is all to do with a certain newspaper.

 

The Daily Herald was the workers newspaper back in the 50's and 60's, and was considered the mouthpiece of the Labour party, and kept the working man aware of politics and general affairs.

 

For one reason or another it went out of business, probably due to the advent of TV.

It came back shortly afterward, as a left-wing paper called The Sun.

 

This paper too began to falter, but was taken over by one Rupert Murdoch.

 

He kept the name, but gradually began to change the political stance of the paper, from staunch left-wing, to hard right wing.

 

This was done gradually, and under cover of page 3 tits and bums, so the average thickoe worker did not realise.

 

The brainwashing was done so cleverly, that even today most people think The Sun is a working class newspaper.

It has reduced the political nous of the average working man from well informed and astute to practically zero.

 

As we see in the result of the recent referendum.

nice post, just about spot on :thumbsup:

[tinfoilhat]

nice post, just about spot on :thumbsup:

 

Anybody who reads any tabloid is an empty headed moron.

[blake]

The problem with the Labour Party, and its core voters dates back many years.

To the early 70's and before, and is all to do with a certain newspaper.

 

The Daily Herald was the workers newspaper back in the 50's and 60's, and was considered the mouthpiece of the Labour party, and kept the working man aware of politics and general affairs.

 

For one reason or another it went out of business, probably due to the advent of TV.

It came back shortly afterward, as a left-wing paper called The Sun.

 

This paper too began to falter, but was taken over by one Rupert Murdoch.

 

He kept the name, but gradually began to change the political stance of the paper, from staunch left-wing, to hard right wing.

 

This was done gradually, and under cover of page 3 tits and bums, so the average thickoe worker did not realise.

 

The brainwashing was done so cleverly, that even today most people think The Sun is a working class newspaper.

It has reduced the political nous of the average working man from well informed and astute to practically zero.

 

As we see in the result of the recent referendum.

 

the typical blaming the media and in particular 'the Sun Wot Won It' when they realise that normal people aren't interested in bankrupt left policies and also note the absolute contempt left-wingers actually have for the working class as if they are all these suggestible sheep and robots. They, the working class, are stupid to vote for them. It never occurs to them that it might be the absolute opposite and that they, the working class, might just be too smart to.

 

meanwhile, the Labour campaign has given up the ghost in the Copeland by-election which means it will move away from the Labour column and into the Tory one for the first time in over 80 years. On the doorsteps, they're all saying it's because they think Corbyn's a numpty that they won't Labour any more.

 

Stoke's next, and they're all saying the same thing on the doorsteps there about Corbyn being a numpty too. When that, which was once in the top 20 safest Labour seats in the country goes, that really will be time for Corbyn to alight a London bus and head to RAF Northolt for his complimentay helicopter to Cuba.

Edited January 22, 2017 by blake

[the_bloke]

The problem with the Labour Party, and its core voters dates back many years.

To the early 70's and before, and is all to do with a certain newspaper.

 

The Daily Herald was the workers newspaper back in the 50's and 60's, and was considered the mouthpiece of the Labour party, and kept the working man aware of politics and general affairs.

 

For one reason or another it went out of business, probably due to the advent of TV.

It came back shortly afterward, as a left-wing paper called The Sun.

 

This paper too began to falter, but was taken over by one Rupert Murdoch.

 

He kept the name, but gradually began to change the political stance of the paper, from staunch left-wing, to hard right wing.

 

This was done gradually, and under cover of page 3 tits and bums, so the average thickoe worker did not realise.

 

The brainwashing was done so cleverly, that even today most people think The Sun is a working class newspaper.

It has reduced the political nous of the average working man from well informed and astute to practically zero.

 

As we see in the result of the recent referendum.

 

Does the Daily Mirror exist in your world? Page 3, target audience of the 'working class man' etc etc yet staunchly a Labour newspaper. It was only with the unpopularity of the Labour party in the 1980s did the sales figures of the Mirror fall below that of The Sun.

 

You seem to be seeing the world with blinkers on.

 

It's interesting that you note the Herald had a readership of people who were more inclined to support the Labour party and in the same breath call the readers 'average thickoe workers' who couldn't see the changes in the political stance of the newspaper they were reading. Doesn't say much for your opinion of the intellectual capacity of the Labour voter does it?

[Jeffrey Shaw]

Either way: how can Labour rely on its bedrock voters when they don't agree with its policies on so many things?

[alchresearch]

More woes for Labour:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38768383

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38753808

[Jacktari]

Does the Daily Mirror exist in your world? Page 3, target audience of the 'working class man' etc etc yet staunchly a Labour newspaper. It was only with the unpopularity of the Labour party in the 1980s did the sales figures of the Mirror fall below that of The Sun.

 

You seem to be seeing the world with blinkers on.

 

It's interesting that you note the Herald had a readership of people who were more inclined to support the Labour party and in the same breath call the readers 'average thickoe workers' who couldn't see the changes in the political stance of the newspaper they were reading. Doesn't say much for your opinion of the intellectual capacity of the Labour voter does it?

 

Sorry for the late response, I missed this, what with my busy lifestyle

 

Yes, I agree, the majority of people, no matter what political hue, are like cattle.

They will go where they are led, even to destruction.

We see this clearly with decent, but simple, people being led by the nose to vote to leave the EU, for instance.

 

I am no longer a Labour Party member btw. It's leadership is leading it down the wrong path.

The decision to support the Tories over the sell out on the EU will be too much I fear.

The trouble is, it will leave millions of decent people with no voice.

[unbeliever]

Wow. No respect at all for our fellow citizens and your evidence... That they don't agree with you it seems.