Harrystottle Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 And then it will be old people who get surgeries denied. They aren't doing it to help fat people, they're doing it to save money. And if they get away with this, will they refuse to treat kids who have taken dodgy drugs, or people who have fallen over whilst drunk, or contracted an STI after unprotected sex? Lots of opportunity to save a bit more there, but it's still not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 And if they get away with this, will they refuse to treat kids who have taken dodgy drugs, or people who have fallen over whilst drunk, or contracted an STI after unprotected sex? Lots of opportunity to save a bit more there, but it's still not right. And abortions or the morning after pill, while we're at it. Lifestyle choice, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 So eat less. Brilliant. Who would have thought of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It seems none of the fat people thought of it Stop talking nonsense, not all people are fat due to over eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyboy Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Of course not. You can get fat drinking water as well How the hell else do they get fat It's their metabolism, that's the fault of their genes which are down to their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Perhaps it might help to clarify our thinking if we imagined the announcement had outlined a plan to withhold treatments to people living in Sheffield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Obese patients will be refused surgery for up to a year as part of efforts to save money, an NHS commissioning group in North Yorkshire has said. Officials at the Vale of York Clinical Commissioning Group said the decision came at a time when the local system was under "severe pressure". The move will see a ban on, for example, hip and knee operations. The Royal College of Surgeons described the restrictions as some of the most severe the modern NHS has ever seen. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-37265752 I am sure this will be over-turned by someone higher up, very quickly. You seem to think that clinically obese people aren't already under restrictions as to what sort of surgery they can have? If the patient is too big for certain operations, they are considered too much of a risk of death on the operating table. There is a reason they don't give 40 stone people gastric bands for example. I see no problem in refusing non life threatening operations when the problem can be solved by losing weight at negligible cost to the NHS and a massive benefit to the patient especially when the weight is the cause of the issue in the first place. Why else do you think joint (hip, knee etc) operations are in the 'ban'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 And then it will be old people who get surgeries denied. They aren't doing it to help fat people, they're doing it to save money. Lose 10% of your weight. Good luck trying to exercise with a knee that needs replacing. Correct on all accounts. They even admit to do it for monetary reasons. The NHS is falling to pieces all around us, time for a serious debate on what the future of healthcare is in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbow2411 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It's their metabolism, that's the fault of their genes which are down to their parents. Oh please, eat whatever your body needs no more no less, it really is that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyboy Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Oh please, eat whatever your body needs no more no less, it really is that simple. I thought I was being ironic:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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