Cyclone Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 If we actually want to stop them burgling then perhaps an ankle bracelet and curfew would be more effective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 No they don't. The Sheffield star is a worthless local paper that hardly anyone reads. Its a shame, Sheffield deserves a better paper with more in depth reporting. What we got here is less informative than what I hear in a pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylinePhoto Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 If we actually want to stop them burgling then perhaps an ankle bracelet and curfew would be more effective... Not really a punishment is it. They can still go out stealing during the day And they can still buy drugs when sat at home playing playstation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Not really a punishment is it. They can still go out stealing during the day And they can still buy drugs when sat at home playing playstation. Which do you want? To stop them burgling or to punish them? Prison is a punishment, but it also increases the risk of further offending and teaches them new skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylinePhoto Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Which do you want? To stop them burgling or to punish them? Prison is a punishment, but it also increases the risk of further offending and teaches them new skills. Both. If it teaches them new skills and they continue to offend then we should just send them away for longer. It seems that the liberal court system seems to take the criminals welfare before the victims. We need to take a harder stance. I like Americas 3 strikes - misdemeanors/felony system Edited September 20, 2016 by SkylinePhoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 You realise that it's expensive to put people in jail, and as I've just described doesn't actually meet one of the key aims of the justice system (rehabilitation). It's not about the welfare of criminals, it's about doing what is best for society (which is not to create better criminals) and what is most cost effective. There is evidence that a harder line is absolutely ineffective, whereas other techniques work. So unless punishment is your only agenda, then it's not the way the evidence says we should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHRemovals Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 why did he have them down ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Send him twenty weeks to a nudist beach in the hot sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Which do you want? To stop them burgling or to punish them? Prison is a punishment, but it also increases the risk of further offending and teaches them new skills. Was actually pondering this very question last night, watching the newspieces about fly tipping. That CCTV footage of the blue flatbed driving down a street at speed, with its flatbed inclined and tipping all sorts of rubbish, was outraging. Arguably, prison doesn't work, neither do fines or tags. I think we need less prison and criminal peer pressure therein, and more 'society-helping utilisation' and social peer pressure. Making prisoners work is now more unlikely to cost minimum wage jobs: councils and other public bodies are flat-broke, there is no budget for menial jobs, whether as direct employees or privately contracted ones. Moreover, many budding criminals in this day and age are all about 'respect innit', and a bit of public humiliation may not go amiss to try and remind them what respect actually is and how it's earned. So perhaps a chaingang made up of convicted flytippers and made to clean up fly-tipped rubbish 7 days a week would work? If not for the offenders, then certainly for the fly-tipped environment. Worth a thought. The guy of the OP can (be sentenced to-) help. Or clean graffitis. Or pick up chewing gums from pavements. Or spend a day in stocks on a public square. In the niff, since he likes it Edited September 20, 2016 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 For something like the example you give, perhaps confiscate his van. A financial punishment, but it won't turn him into a career criminal (although it might make him unemployed if it's as extreme as confiscate the van permanently). Punishment that fits the crime, aka community service, yes, can't hurt to have fly tippers clean up can it, see the consequences of their actions whilst also helping to fix them. The guy in the OP, well, I'm not sure that public nudity should really be a crime. So unless he was spanking the monkey he should haven't been charged at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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