Dystopia, It's all too awful

[Santo]

I'm not anti poverty, I'm a realist.

 

That statement makes no sense as a response to what I wrote.

[petemcewan]

Build your icebreakers if you want to have a hope in hell of having any influence

in the Arctic.

Edited November 5, 2016 by petemcewan

[Petminder]

That statement makes no sense as a response to what I wrote.

 

Of cause it makes sense, you claimed I am anti poverty, and I am saying that I am not.

[phil752]

It's got bigger because countries WANT to join it, with the exception of idiot Britain that wants to leave.

 

Can you give an example of where it's used debt to force a country to join?

 

lets keep going with the wonga simile they enticed people to take a loan they can or hope will not payback to have another and another, thus entrapped. Now Greece clearly did not fit the rules to enter the EU, however they fudged the economic of Greece to join. Sound familiar to wonga, once in can't pay, then another loan. Hay ho control.

Edited November 6, 2016 by phil752

[Cyclone]

I've asked three times now for some evidence of that and you apparently can't provide any.

 

Greece had been part of the EU since 1981, when it apparently cooked its books in order to qualify to join. It wanted in so badly that it lied. It wasn't forced, it wasn't coerced, it desperately wanted in.

[petemcewan]

" In October 2014, Russia announced its intention to submit more requests to the United Nations, seeking to expand its Arctic borders by 1.2 million square kilometers (more than 463,322 square miles). In November 2014, Putin announced to set up the headquarters of a “North” Arctic Command, operational in December the same year. http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-arctic-expansion-2014-11 In December 2015, Putin signed a new military doctrine, according to which the Arctic was officially listed in the Russian sphere of influence.

 

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By having the largest icebreaker fleet , de facto, puts Russia in control in the Arctic regions. The Russian kleptocracy will pillage the Arctic for resources. In my opinion, there is very little that can be done to stop them.

Edited November 6, 2016 by petemcewan

[phil752]

I've asked three times now for some evidence of that and you apparently can't provide any.

 

Greece had been part of the EU since 1981, when it apparently cooked its books in order to qualify to join. It wanted in so badly that it lied. It wasn't forced, it wasn't coerced, it desperately wanted in.

 

why did it want to join the offer of money, look at the other East European countries all are negative payer to the EU. It the enticement of money.

[Cyclone]

So it wasn't what you said then and you've now swapped it to be some other reason.

 

The offer of money seems like a better reason to join than being invaded to be honest.

[phil752]

So it wasn't what you said then and you've now swapped it to be some other reason.

 

The offer of money seems like a better reason to join than being invaded to be honest.

 

Did i not say look at the Wong system

[Cyclone]

It was a claim about using debt to force them into the union. Now they're joining voluntarily due to being offered net benefits. And somehow this (you think/say) is worse than being invaded by Russia...