Beggars, homeless, street drinkers & drug users in Sheffield!

[kaytie]

On 12/02/2019 at 07:30, magz said:

I was stopped twice yesterday, once on the moor and later on fargate, both times by  tall young men who stood in front of me so I couldn't get round them, asking for money.  They were both clean and well dressed so I assume were not street sleepers.   As an elderly woman alone, this is intimidating and surely should be stopped.

Say " Basta, basta, non capiche" (Italian for " enough,  enough,  I don't understand ") and walk off.   Works for me. 

[ECCOnoob]

17 minutes ago, kaytie said:

Say " Basta, basta, non capiche" (Italian for " enough,  enough,  I don't understand ") and walk off.   Works for me. 

Why bother?    "No thank you" works for me just as well.

[Mister Gee]

28 minutes ago, kaytie said:

Say " Basta, basta, non capiche" (Italian for " enough,  enough,  I don't understand ") and walk off.   Works for me. 

I can't be doing with all that pretentious stuff, I generally have a chat and give them a quid.

[redruby]

On 12/02/2019 at 07:30, magz said:

I was stopped twice yesterday, once on the moor and later on fargate, both times by  tall young men who stood in front of me so I couldn't get round them, asking for money.  They were both clean and well dressed so I assume were not street sleepers.   As an elderly woman alone, this is intimidating and surely should be stopped.

Yes.  And this demonstrates another reason why vulnerable people (be they beggars, homeless etc ) should  get help to get OFF the streets and not kept on them with well meant donations of cash, which (or may not) help someone in the short term but is highly unlikely to help anyone in the long term. Who would be happy about their gran feeling intimidated by beggars asking her for money every she goes shopping in town? 

[Cyclone]

Clean well dressed young men stopping people by standing in front of them doesn't sound like someone who can be "helped off the street" since they aren't "on the street" anyway.  

[kaytie]

13 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Why bother?    "No thank you" works for me just as well.

Because they don't respond, start a discussion/argument or swear being busy trying to figure out who/what the heck I am.   Polite refusal has in the past resulted in my being called some choice names I won't repeat here and/or pursued.   Not a pleasant experience. 

[melthebell]

Sleeper buses starting in sheffield to help the homeless

https://www.shefnews.co.uk/2019/02/21/double-decker-bus-for-homeless-in-sheffield/

yay or nay?

[woodmally]

15 hours ago, melthebell said:

Sleeper buses starting in sheffield to help the homeless

https://www.shefnews.co.uk/2019/02/21/double-decker-bus-for-homeless-in-sheffield/

yay or nay?

Sadly again I dont think it will work. As it has been stated on here many times.  Many people do not engage with services.  Anthony Cunningham tried his tent city project and the council shut it down because it was turning into a drugs den. I know first hand as while it was up there was a queue of people just off my street waiting for their fix.  Anthony himself admitted that he set up a tent for them to get their injections.  Anthony is now trying to get sleeper containers set up to do the same. However I fear that again will fall in the same problem.  Yes there is lack of accommodation but also lack of engagement from the homeless and rootless.

[Cyclone]

What does "lack of engagement" mean?  Do you mean that they won't give up drink and drugs in exchange for somewhere to sleep?  Or something else?

[woodmally]

1 hour ago, Cyclone said:

What does "lack of engagement" mean?  Do you mean that they won't give up drink and drugs in exchange for somewhere to sleep?  Or something else?

Here is an example of lack of engagement with services.  http://www.helpushelp.uk/blog/our-outreach-teams-out-on-the-streets-daily