damo Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The majority of those in the city centre have homes to go to especially the two eastern european woman that frequent Chapel walk who even enough to pay for monthly bus passes. I've also witnessed a few homeless people being dontated food only to chuck it away or refuse it as they want money. The shops in the city centre are fighting a losing battle against them too as they will come in shoplift and leg it knowing full well the police won't do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Warpig - the corporate citizen might choose to spend £100 on a financial product or other luxuries, but that's not an option available to those disconnected from society and ravaged with addiction. It's not an option available to those who feel like the odds are stacked against them; that life has an agenda and they've been given no part to play. We can continue to bury our heads in the sand and carry on with our failed approach to the issue, or alternatively we park our prejudices to one side and examine the overwhelming body of evidence that says we are actively making a bad situation worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranza Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 A tip I was given is 'socks' no one can begrudge that. Next time you buy some buy extra, only people in real need accept socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarPig Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Warpig - the corporate citizen might choose to spend £100 on a financial product or other luxuries, but that's not an option available to those disconnected from society and ravaged with addiction. It's not an option available to those who feel like the odds are stacked against them; that life has an agenda and they've been given no part to play. We can continue to bury our heads in the sand and carry on with our failed approach to the issue, or alternatively we park our prejudices to one side and examine the overwhelming body of evidence that says we are actively making a bad situation worse. Or we can accept that some are conning the public into believing they are homeless, when they are not. £400/month for 4 nights of begging is good going, on top of any benefits they are getting. More fool the public I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I've seen many of the homeless in the city centre asleep in shop doorways in the middle of the night. Maybe one or two have homes to go to, but the majority of them are homeless, live on the streets and deserve our compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarPig Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I've seen many of the homeless in the city centre asleep in shop doorways in the middle of the night. Maybe one or two have homes to go to, but the majority of them are homeless, live on the streets and deserve our compassion. Yes, the homeless do sleep in the doorways you mention, and they are the genuine homeless. But we are talking about beggars here, and most of the beggars are not homeless. The genuine homeless are found sleeping in doorways late at night, the con artist beggars are still awake at that time and are found begging in the usual places. The two groups are quite different, with the latter despised by the former. ---------- Post added 17-04-2017 at 14:26 ---------- A tip I was given is 'socks' no one can begrudge that. Next time you buy some buy extra, only people in real need accept socks. Or hand them your old ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranza Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Yes, the homeless do sleep in the doorways you mention, and they are the genuine homeless. But we are talking about beggars here, and most of the beggars are not homeless. The genuine homeless are found sleeping in doorways late at night, the con artist beggars are still awake at that time and are found begging in the usual places. The two groups are quite different, with the latter despised by the former. ---------- Post added 17-04-2017 at 14:26 ---------- Or hand them your old ones? Yup. Even if they are discarded someone else can still use them. New or old makes no difference to cold feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarPig Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 They can have my Sunday socks (my holey ones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I know of some beggars that can get over £100 on a Saturday night, before going home. Thats mortgage money to most. £400 a month? And you'd pay a mortgage and live off that would you? Different world you live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarPig Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) £400 a month? And you'd pay a mortgage and live off that would you? Different world you live in. No, I said it was mortgage money. Not mortgage and live off money. But still, that £400 on top of their benefits and the housing they have been provided with is a good extra income. Shame it will just get spent on drink and drugs meaning they have to beg again another night. Edited April 18, 2017 by WarPig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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