UKIP - What a joke..

[Berberis]

60% anti EU then.

 

So why do you criticize Brexit?

 

Are you feeling ok?

 

There are more than two emotions. I1L2T3 could be 40% happy, 10% ecstatic, 40% ambivalent and 10% unhappy.

[crookesjoe]

There are more than two emotions. I1L2T3 could be 40% happy, 10% ecstatic, 40% ambivalent and 10% unhappy.

 

You are 100% hot air.

[Guest sibon]

You are 100% hot air.

 

You need to ask that Charm School for your money back.

[max]

UKIP MEPs refuse to enter into any debates at Brussels as they are expected to speak English, which is the lingua franca.

[Anna B]

We need UKIP to keep the Tories on task with Brexit, otherwise I believe they will backslide. Great pity Nigel Farage is no longer in charge of UKIP, he seems to be the only one up to the task.

[tinfoilhat]

We need UKIP to keep the Tories on task with Brexit, otherwise I believe they will backslide. Great pity Nigel Farage is no longer in charge of UKIP, he seems to be the only one up to the task.

 

I can't figure this out. Anna B, socialist, anarchist woman of the people want farage to have modicum of influence so may and her right wing sod-the-workers free marketeers can go to town on destroying employment, environmental and social laws that actually do people in poorer areas a bit of good?

 

You'll have to explain this one to me.

[Anna B]

I can't figure this out. Anna B, socialist, anarchist woman of the people want farage to have modicum of influence so may and her right wing sod-the-workers free marketeers can go to town on destroying employment, environmental and social laws that actually do people in poorer areas a bit of good?

 

You'll have to explain this one to me.

 

Errr, not sure I recognise the description, but I don't trust May or the Tories to deliver Brexit. I think it will be a fudge of incompetence, misdirection and misinformation. I think it will take years until we've forgotten all about it what we were hoping for.

Having UKIP on their backs will keep them focused and ensure it happens sooner rather than later. That's all. I also like the fact that MEPs, who presumably know the inner workings of the EU, joined UKIP. They are the experts in this case.

 

We are totally at the mercy of the media to find out what's going on, and I don't trust the media one bit to tell us the truth.

Edited May 6, 2017 by Anna B

[ECCOnoob]

 

We are totally at the mercy of the media to find out what's going on, and I don't trust the media one bit to tell us the truth.

 

No we are not.

 

I have said before many times, IF people could be bothered to pull their finger out there is a wealth of information all over the internet, books, publications and even television as to what is going on.

 

There are committee minutes, draft proposals and bills, charts, plans, spreadsheets, budgetary details, official reports, detailed transcripts, audio recordings, video footage of not just what happens in the House but in the dozens and dozens of round table meetings and smaller committees that happen in government every day.

 

People COULD engage more by actually attending surgeries, communicating with their elected leaders, raising questions or submissions during public forums, attending public galleries during open committees.

 

The fact that people sit there and accept what the media edits out for them, is entirely up to them.

 

You seem to be constantly raising the so called media bias as if that's the be all and end all. Firstly, despite what you claim, its not and never has been all right wing. There are plenty of socialist, leftie and liberal media publications pushing their own bias and agenda.

 

Secondly, its up to people to look beyond the headlines and take the trouble to actually educate themselves on the facts. If the masses choose not to do that, tough. Dont be crying when something you dont want or dont understand happens.

Edited May 6, 2017 by ECCOnoob

[Anna B]

No we are not.

 

I have said before many times, IF people could be bothered to pull their finger out there is a wealth of information all over the internet, books, publications and even television as to what is going on.

 

There are committee minutes, draft proposals and bills, charts, plans, spreadsheets, budgetary details, official reports, detailed transcripts, audio recordings, video footage of not just what happens in the House but in the dozens and dozens of round table meetings and smaller committees that happen in government every day.

 

People COULD engage more by actually attending surgeries, communicating with their elected leaders, raising questions or submissions during public forums, attending public galleries during open committees.

 

The fact that people sit there and accept what the media edits out for them, is entirely up to them.

 

You seem to be constantly raising the so called media bias as if that's the be all and end all. Firstly, despite what you claim, its not and never has been all right wing. There are plenty of socialist, leftie and liberal media publications pushing their own bias and agenda.

 

Secondly, its up to people to look beyond the headlines and take the trouble to actually educate themselves on the facts. If the masses choose not to do that, tough. Dont be crying when something you dont want or dont understand happens.

 

I agree up to a point, I do many of the above and consider myself reasonably well informed. But I am retired. I have time to do this.

 

Many if not most people get their News / information off the tellybox and newspapers. They have busy lives, they have other things to do, other interests. They take things at face value and expect reporting of events/issues to be reasonably accurate.

 

A Chinese friend said to me that the difference between China and Britain, is that in China everyone knows that the media is just propaganda, but in Britain the British still think they are given the facts.

[phil752]

Yes, Farage metaphorically nailed to the cross in constituencies that wouldn't elect him as an MP, but then born again, arisen, just like Jesus.

 

Back on the gravy train......er.....no.....hold on.....he's still on it having a lovely time in Brussels and Strasbourg

 

You lot should start a cult

 

you really think he gets paid more than any other MEP, but at least you realise it is a corrupt gravy train.

Edited May 7, 2017 by phil752