Gamston Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The turmoil that has been the leadership of this collection of misfits has reached a new level of ridiculous. Its a classic case of the one subject pressure group that has achieved its purpose. There is nothing else that it is united on. Dissolution is the only solution. They still have a duty to represent those who voted for them during the 2014 EU elections. Once BREXIT is complete, than they should disband because you are correct, the pressure group has achieved its purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) No, Labour cabinet ministers just hit voters don't they Mr Prescott, still wasn't sacked was he, " John's John, being the leader's explaination. I think it is worth a replay. Just realised that both Prescott and Mike Hookem are from Hull, must be something in the water. Edited October 7, 2016 by Blackbeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 It's the old left right argument again, when really is should the the authoritarian liberal argument. Both left and right parties like to engage in attacks and splinters. I'm amazed people accuse the right of splintering, and yet conveniently forget the Gang of four and the SDP - militant, and now momentum. All hallmarks of authoritatian parties, rather than more liberal ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestTinsley Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 although 99% of ukip are ex tories, they seem to be moving nearer to the politics and methods of the likes of bnp and nf by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 It's the old left right argument again, when really is should the the authoritarian liberal argument. Both left and right parties like to engage in attacks and splinters. I'm amazed people accuse the right of splintering, and yet conveniently forget the Gang of four and the SDP - militant, and now momentum. All hallmarks of authoritatian parties, rather than more liberal ones... Got to say I agree with this at the moment. The entire political spectrum is getting quite worryingly militant at the moment. When you need to rely on the lib dems to add some sanity to the situation you know it's got bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylinePhoto Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think that if UKIP 'rebrand' to a working class middle right party, then they would become more powerful than Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think that if UKIP 'rebrand' to a working class middle right party, then they would become more powerful than Labour Ah well back to making jokes, "Ukip comfortably steal Labour seat in by-election despite Steven Woolfe altercation" http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/718632/Ukip-Hartlepool-by-election-Tim-Fleming-Strassborg-Steven-Woolfe-collapse out of labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelFargate Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think that if UKIP 'rebrand' to a working class middle right party, then they would become more powerful than Labour The sensible thing for Labour to have done would have been to rebrand itself as a working class middle right party, but unfortunately it has gone the other way. It may move back again, but only after Corbyn has been soundly defeated at the polls in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The sensible thing for Labour to have done would have been to rebrand itself as a working class middle right party, but unfortunately it has gone the other way. It may move back again, but only after Corbyn has been soundly defeated at the polls in 2020. Why? I do understand that without power you won't achieve masses, but equally why should a party completely change its mantra simply to get seats in parliament? Ultimately a left wing proposition offers a change to the status quo, whether people will see the potential in it before 2020 is doubtful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Joke or otherwise, they have managed almost single handedly to change the course of history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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