Petminder Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Sexual assault is far worse than assault. Apparently you don't know that. Nor can you distinguish between forum banter and reality. In my experience being punched in the Gob is far worse than being kissed and touched, therefor I would feel safer with Trump than you. Edited October 21, 2016 by Petminder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemcewan Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 sgtkate, With due respect ,socialism and fascism are not the same. The BNP are fascists. They may of toned down their politics of late- but at heart the organisation is fascist. " 1. Fascism is radicalism from the right. 2. Fascism is an expression of middle-class discontent. 3. Marxism and other forms of socialism are radical movements from the left. 4. They are expressions of lower-class and working-class discontent. 5. Hitler was brought to power by Fascism. 6. The Russian Revolution was Marxist. 7. Fascism and Marxism are mortal enemies. 8. Fascism is nationalist: The Nazis were vehemently opposed to internationalism. They quit the League of Nations. 9. Marxism and Socialism are internationalist. 10. Fascists believed that God was on their side. 11. Marxism is atheist Tom Kando " ( Is America turning gay and fascist. March 2010 ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I prefer a men to kiss me than punch me in the Gob, therefor I would feel safer with Trump than Cyclone. Cyclone hasn't punched anyone in the face and is not running for president so your comments are irrelevant as well as tediously repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petminder Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Cyclone hasn't punched anyone in the face and is not running for president so your comments are irrelevant as well as tediously repetitive. How do you know what he has or hasn't done, he said he would and that is why I would feel safer with someone like Trump than Cyclone, I can deal with touchy feely men, but I would rather avoid violent men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 How do you know what he has or hasn't done, he said he would and that is why I would feel safer with someone like Trump than Cyclone, I can deal with touchy feely men, but I would rather avoid violent men. Why don't you say it for the 308th time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petminder Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Why don't you say it for the 308th time? Violent men are worse than touchy feely men, why are you defending violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Violent men are worse than touchy feely men, why are you defending violence? Oh please, is logical fallacies the best you can do? Go and mind some pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petminder Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Oh please, is logical fallacies the best you can do? Go and mind some pets. I would rather discuss the crazy idea that punching someone in the face is more acceptable than kissing someone without first asking for permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 lets keep on topic rather than popping at each other. To me the tape was just a man boasting in really bad taste, someone who should have known better. I like to think that the ladies that have come forward later,should have made their first port of call the police. The release of the tape was undoubtedly politically motivated (which Trump has only himself to blame), they had been held for some time by the Clinton supporting media. On the other hand Clinton was impeached for his proven sexual abuse,Hillary stood by him and engaged into trying to discredit the ladies that had been abused. So who is the worst, to my mind I can only wonder at the pressure the abused ladies that worked in the White House had to endure from the President and the First Lady, both physically and mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayfly182 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 No, just saying people that punch other people in the face are worse than people to touch and kiss other people without asking. I've managed to stay out of this quagmire of a thread up til now, but I'm getting very, very sick of this repeated statement. When I was about 12 my father insisted on supervising me showering. He made me wash between my legs 3 times, saying I hadn't done it properly, then said I still hadn't done it right and did it himself, with a strange expression on his face which just scared me at the time but I was later able to identify as sexually aroused. That same year (again, I think) the school bully punched me in the face and gave me a bad nosebleed which bled on and off for a couple of days. Are you really saying that I should have found the second experience worse than the first? Because that's definitely not the case. That's possibly not even the worst sexual assault of my life - there was also an assault when I was 18, and a woman I had thought of as a friend locked me in her boyfriend's bedroom (her boyfriend was there) and repeatedly sexually assaulted me despite me saying no several times and trying to get out of there any way I could think of. I am so, so sick of people telling me that experiences like that are my fault (especially the earlier one when I was just a kid, for some reason) or that they're no big deal and being groped never hurt anybody. Sexual assault does damage people, even kill. I'm still here but I've known a couple of other victims who aren't any more - including one girl who comitted suicide aged just 15 after being repeatedly molested by a teacher. If you would really rather be sexually assaulted than punched by any man you know - including family members, teachers and bosses (let's not forget, Trump is essentially the boss of a lot of women) - then that's fine. But it's not the choice everyone should make and it's not crazy to have a different opinion to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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