War in Syria - here we go again

[banjodeano]

Yes it is possible to deceive without lying.

What indications are there that this is what's happening here? It's not at all hard to find BBC coverage of west Aleppo.

I have seen stated many times on our news programmes that the russians broke the ceasfire in Syria by attacking that aid convoy, they now completely ignore the fact that the USA attacked and killed 60 something Syrians a few days before,

[unbeliever]

I have seen stated many times on our news programmes that the russians broke the ceasfire in Syria by attacking that aid convoy, they now completely ignore the fact that the USA attacked and killed 60 something Syrians a few days before,

 

They attacked a UN aid convoy. A convoy of noble people murdered whilst trying to bring humanitarian aid to the thousands of desperate civilians caught up in this mess. A UN aid convoy.

Also. There are various groups which were not part of the ceasefire. Blowing them up does not constitute violation of the ceasefire.

 

 

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eally you have answered you own question thou, the BBc constantly broadcasts about East Apeppo and as you rightly say you have to go online to find about West Aleppo.

 

It was on the TV as well.

Edited October 19, 2016 by unbeliever

[phil752]

They attacked a UN aid convoy. A convoy of noble people murdered whilst trying to bring humanitarian aid to the thousands of desperate civilians caught up in this mess. A UN aid convoy.

 

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It was on the TV as well.

 

you saying it was given equal time, if not you got bias.

[unbeliever]

you saying it was given equal time, if not you got bias.

 

I doubt the time was exactly equal and no, that quite obviously does not automatically mean bias.

[Bob Arctor]

This is a good, balanced article about Aleppo http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-aleppo-media-war-20160830-snap-htmlstory.html from the LA Times.

 

Is there an equally balanced article on the Russia Today website? I couldn't find one.

[banjodeano]

They attacked a UN aid convoy. A convoy of noble people murdered whilst trying to bring humanitarian aid to the thousands of desperate civilians caught up in this mess. A UN aid convoy.

Also. There are various groups which were not part of the ceasefire. Blowing them up does not constitute violation of the ceasefire.

 

 

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It was on the TV as well.

The USA were included in the ceasfire, they attacked and killed Syrian soldiers on their own soverign land, America were the invading forces...so how come it is not being described by our media that the USA were the ones that broke the ceasefire?

as for the aid convoy being attacked, there is no proof that it was the Russians, for all we know it could have been an attack by the Americans to escalate the war

[Bob Arctor]

The USA were included in the ceasfire, they attacked and killed Syrian soldiers on their own soverign land, America were the invading forces...so how come it is not being described by our media that the USA were the ones that broke the ceasefire?

as for the aid convoy being attacked, there is no proof that it was the Russians, for all we know it could have been an attack by the Americans to escalate the war

 

Do you really think the UN would be gullible enough not to spot that? I'm generally anti-war and cynical/sceptical about a lot of things but it's no good if good evidence is dismissed as not having proven anything - we'll end up with everything being simultaneously true and untrue and then no-one will know what the hell is going on. This is what has happened in Israel/Palestine: both sides have pretty much denied every single charge against them so that it's almost impossible for the objective outsider to know anything about what's going on. Apparently everything that has happened there in the last 100 years is both true and false.

[unbeliever]

The USA were included in the ceasfire, they attacked and killed Syrian soldiers on their own soverign land, America were the invading forces...so how come it is not being described by our media that the USA were the ones that broke the ceasefire?

as for the aid convoy being attacked, there is no proof that it was the Russians, for all we know it could have been an attack by the Americans to escalate the war

 

I'm going to stop talking to you now.

[banjodeano]

Do you really think the UN would be gullible enough not to spot that? I'm generally anti-war and cynical/sceptical about a lot of things but it's no good if good evidence is dismissed as not having proven anything - we'll end up with everything being simultaneously true and untrue and then no-one will know what the hell is going on. This is what has happened in Israel/Palestine: both sides have pretty much denied every single charge against them so that it's almost impossible for the objective outsider to know anything about what's going on. Apparently everything that has happened there in the last 100 years is both true and false.

 

your assuming the UN are impartial

 

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I'm going to stop talking to you now.

whichever way you wanna go mate

[Santo]

The USA were included in the ceasfire, they attacked and killed Syrian soldiers on their own soverign land, America were the invading forces...so how come it is not being described by our media that the USA were the ones that broke the ceasefire?

as for the aid convoy being attacked, there is no proof that it was the Russians, for all we know it could have been an attack by the Americans to escalate the war

 

Do you honestly believe there is a chance America bombed an aid convoy on purpose to escalate the war or are you just throwing it out there as a minor possibility?