tinfoilhat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Are you saying elections can't be rigged? I have no idea how they do it, but I have no doubt it can be done. If I said Putin had rigged the Russian election, people would probably chose to believe it, but this is America, right, so it can't happen in the squeaky clean seat of Democracy..... Yeah, right. Yes, I'm saying the US presidential election can't be rigged. I'm saying it won't be rigged. Too much power on either side to see that happen and the fallout, if caught , would be incredible. Now I'm not saying the also rans are getting a fair crack but the big two can't rig it. The reason putin can rig it is because there isn't any opposition and if there is they're, to put it kindly, under pressure. To that end, he doesn't need to rig the voting, he's got the media sorted and heavy hand on any opposition already. No point in filling in ballot papers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinzwind Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) I spotted your poll this time, rinzwind. Great. Have you voted? ---------- Post added 21-10-2016 at 22:29 ---------- Yes, I'm saying the US presidential election can't be rigged. I'm saying it won't be rigged. Too much power on either side to see that happen and the fallout, if caught , would be incredible. They have been caught. http://observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-21/assange-tweets-chilling-assessment-us-democracy-there-no-us-election-there-power-con?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29 Also their is widespread concern that they can rig it even more, very very easily, without leaving a trace. http://www.computerworld.com/article/2549684/security0/back-door-flaws-found-in-diebold-e-voting-machines.html http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/millions-voters-could-cast-ballots-machines-leave-no-paper-trail Edited October 22, 2016 by rinzwind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yes, I'm saying the US presidential election can't be rigged. I'm saying it won't be rigged. Too much power on either side to see that happen and the fallout, if caught , would be incredible. Now I'm not saying the also rans are getting a fair crack but the big two can't rig it. The reason putin can rig it is because there isn't any opposition and if there is they're, to put it kindly, under pressure. To that end, he doesn't need to rig the voting, he's got the media sorted and heavy hand on any opposition already. No point in filling in ballot papers! I get what your saying. Trump has already said that he and his minions will be watching like hawks. If there is so much as a sniff of rigging Trump will shout it from the rooftops. (He might do that anyway, so will we ever really know the truth...?) The result will probably be close, so I'm not sure this election will be the end of it. Either way there could well be trouble afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I get what your saying. Trump has already said that he and his minions will be watching like hawks. If there is so much as a sniff of rigging Trump will shout it from the rooftops. (He might do that anyway, so will we ever really know the truth...?) The result will probably be close, so I'm not sure this election will be the end of it. Either way there could well be trouble afterwards. Trumps team is comparatively small. The GOP machine is not, neither is the democrat machine. Now unless those two are in cahoots to see trump fail I can't see it happening. ---------- Post added 21-10-2016 at 22:43 ---------- I get what your saying. Trump has already said that he and his minions will be watching like hawks. If there is so much as a sniff of rigging Trump will shout it from the rooftops. (He might do that anyway, so will we ever really know the truth...?) The result will probably be close, so I'm not sure this election will be the end of it. Either way there could well be trouble afterwards. I'm not ruling trouble afterwards. A lot of trumps supporters are vocal,easily led and armed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yes, I'm saying the US presidential election can't be rigged. I'm saying it won't be rigged. Too much power on either side to see that happen and the fallout, if caught , would be incredible. Now I'm not saying the also rans are getting a fair crack but the big two can't rig it. The reason putin can rig it is because there isn't any opposition and if there is they're, to put it kindly, under pressure. To that end, he doesn't need to rig the voting, he's got the media sorted and heavy hand on any opposition already. No point in filling in ballot papers! Completely agree. Too many checks and balances in place. People consider a fair election to be way more important than who gets elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinzwind Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Trumps team is comparatively small. The GOP machine is not, neither is the democrat machine. Now unless those two are in cahoots to see trump fail I can't see it happening. You seem to have ignored my posts Tinfoilhat. (1, 9, 19) A single person can and nobody would be the wiser. A considerable number of Republican politicians are in cahoots with the democrats and have publicly stated they support Clinton. Clinton should not be eligible for the candidacy because she broke the law, took payments from foreign powers and cheated Bernie Sanders who won the primary. Auditors have confirmed there was election fraud. The DNC also organized for at Trump rallies, colluded with the mainstream media and her campaign team to have large numbers of ineligible voters bussed in to swing states. All this relates to the 2016 presidential race. Now Tinfoilhat...which election are you talking about where you can't see it happening? ---------- Post added 21-10-2016 at 23:38 ---------- Completely agree. Too many checks and balances in place. Checks and balances ? Exactly what checks and balances apply to the proprietary closed source What are you even talking about? (2, 3) Edited October 21, 2016 by rinzwind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 You seem to have ignored my posts Tinfoilhat. (1, 9, 19) A single person can and nobody would be the wiser. A considerable number of Republican politicians are in cahoots with the democrats and have publicly stated they support Clinton. Clinton should not be eligible for the candidacy because she broke the law, took payments from foreign powers and cheated Bernie Sanders who won the primary. Auditors there was election fraud. The DNC also organized for at Trump rallies, colluded with the mainstream media and her campaign team to have large numbers of ineligible voters bussed in to swing states. All this relates to the 2016 presidential race. Now Tinfoilhat...which election are you talking about where you can't see it happening? ---------- Post added 21-10-2016 at 23:38 ---------- Checks and balances ? Exactly what checks and balances apply to the proprietary closed source What are you even talking about? (2, 3) So only the democrats can hack one and not only nobody would notice, trump would never stoop to do the same. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinzwind Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) So only the democrats can hack one and not only nobody would notice, trump would never stoop to do the same. Gotcha. Precisely. Voting machines have back doors allowing the owners to easily modify the results without their being any evidence (paper trail). Vice Chairman of George Soros' highly political Open Societies Foundation is also on the Board of Directors of Smartmatic, the electronic voting systems corporation responsible for all vote counting in 16 US States. George Soros is a substantial donor to Clintons campaign making this a serious conflict of interest. Trump does not have any similar links to, or control over the companies that created or own the voting machines (that I know of) meaning only the Democrats could do this. As for whether Trump would "stoop" to do the same, probably, but this is mere conjecture. Unlikely Hillary, Trump does not have a record of having recently defrauded one of the primaries. Edited October 21, 2016 by rinzwind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 So only the democrats can hack one and not only nobody would notice, trump would never stoop to do the same. Gotcha. Will leave the loon to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Will leave the loon to you. Thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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