chalga Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 But then those businesses wouldn't have free access to the UK market. Although businesses in Europe that want access to the UK market could relocate here. Well,if they wanted free access to the UK market,they wouldn't re locate would they............I'm talking about jobs or businesses that could move back into the EU from the UK.....you don't even need to move the whole business,just the jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 we have more people in work than at any time in our history. Most coming from overseas to take up the strain, but good luck. Aye. And the Treasury believes that immigration is good for the economy. So accepting free movement of people as part of being in the single market is OK. Unfortunately the popular misconception is that immigrants cause unemployment so it is politically awkward. It's easier to go along with misconceptions than to challenge them. I think "Leave the EU, stay in the EEA, have free movement of people" does seem rather sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 But then those businesses wouldn't have free access to the UK market. Although businesses in Europe that want access to the UK market could relocate here. ---------- Post added 28-11-2016 at 15:31 ---------- Never mind Google are bringing 3000 jobs to the UK and we have more people in work than at any time in our history. Most coming from overseas to take up the strain, but good luck. Er,I think the whole idea of Brexit was that UK unemployed and the ones that had their jobs taken from them were going to take up the strain.........you know...........takin' our country back and all that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Never mind Google are bringing 3000 jobs to the UK and we have more people in work than at any time in our history. Most coming from overseas to take up the strain, but good luck. Ah, yes, Google, that paragon of ethical corporate tax payment. The NI and PAYE income tax from 3,000 UK employees (and they'll all be Brits under a UK contract of employment and resident taxpayers, right? ) will certainly be welcome, but I wouldn't count on (part-)financing working tax credits or the NHS from Google's corpo tax take if I were you Edited November 28, 2016 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa2900 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Er,I think the whole idea of Brexit was that UK unemployed and the ones that had their jobs taken from them were going to take up the strain.........you know...........takin' our country back and all that stuff. Well folk can put whatever reason forward that suits them. As far as I'm concerned once Britain pulls free of EU constraints we will be free to open our borders to anyone who will bring benefit to the country and shut the doors to those who won't. ---------- Post added 28-11-2016 at 15:56 ---------- Ah, yes, Google, that paragon of ethical corporate tax payment. The NI and PAYE income tax from 3,000 UK employees (and they'll all be Brits under a UK contract of employment and resident taxpayers, right? ) will certainly be welcome, but I wouldn't count on (part-)financing working tax credits or the NHS from Google's corpo tax take if I were you 3000 folk working for Google in the UK will pay their income taxes where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Looking at employment rate in isolation is naive. You need to also consider productivity as well. An increase in employment should also give a corresponding increase in productivity, but it hasn't. Productivity is effectively stagnant while employment rate rises. From this you can conclude that the majority of jobs being created are in the low wage economy which actually do not do much when looking at the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Er,I think the whole idea of Brexit was that UK unemployed and the ones that had their jobs taken from them were going to take up the strain.........you know...........takin' our country back and all that stuff. You can just imagine the clamour for daily 80 mile round trips into Lincolnshire to pick fruit and veg on minimum wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa2900 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) You can just imagine the clamour for daily 80 mile round trips into Lincolnshire to pick fruit and veg on minimum wage. Why would we need anyone to pick fruit & veg on minimum wage. Minimum wage is now £7.20 and rising. It is pricing home grown vegetables out of the market. It is better for our workforce to work in jobs where we don't have to top up their income. The foreign workers who currently live in sheds and pick vegetables can of course go back to Eastern Europe and pick vegetables for their minimum wage (160 Euros/month in Albania) and sell them to us instead. It would help Albania where there is around 16% unemployment and god knows their economy needs the money. Edited November 28, 2016 by aa2900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Why would we need anyone to pick fruit & veg on minimum wage. Minimum wage is now £7.20 and rising. It is pricing home grown vegetables out of the market. It is better for our workforce to work in jobs where we don't have to top up their income. The foreign workers who currently live in sheds and pick vegetables can of course go back to Eastern Europe and pick vegetables for their minimum wage (160 Euros/month in Albania) and sell them to us instead. It would help Albania where there is around 16% unemployment and god knows their economy needs the money. You are suggesting we reduce our already poor level of food security even further? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Why would we need anyone to pick fruit & veg on minimum wage. Minimum wage is now £7.20 and rising. It is pricing home grown vegetables out of the market. It is better for our workforce to work in jobs where we don't have to top up their income. The foreign workers who currently live in sheds and pick vegetables can of course go back to Eastern Europe and pick vegetables for their minimum wage (160 Euros/month in Albania) and sell them to us instead. It would help Albania where there is around 16% unemployment and god knows their economy needs the money. Best ask the growers,they are the ones saying that the seasonal workers scheme,namely immigrants, being abolished will cause food prices to rise because they can't get other people from the UK to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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