unbeliever Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 No,I would bin it. I find that odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I find that odd. Really,how quaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frans2755 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I suspect this may be the case. All we read in the xenophobic UK press is how much the EU hate the British and what a terrible Prime Minister that Mr Merkel is. Yet in actual fact, Mr Merkel is highly regarded by Germanese business leaders and they think Our Nige' is an annoying prat. The sentiment is very pro British in western europe for many reasons, main one being that I don't have to speak german. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Would you not be inclined to complain if somebody sent you an illegal demand for tens of billions of points? Hello, I see you've spent literally the whole waking day posting on this again, from 8:16am. Is this your full time occupation? Never get divorced, my friend. You wouldn't understand why you must repay your share of that credit card debt you built up together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Why is it 'penalising' the UK if they are legally liable for the money they are asked to pay? Because they have discretion as to what they will seek to put forward as a liability and things they may disregard. Nobody has ever left before so it is all new ground. There isnt a nice clean exit bill. Something the lawyers can argue over and the diplomats compromise on. If they dont come to an agreement then they will both lose. Edited February 3, 2017 by 999tigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Because they have discretion as to what they will seek to put forward as a liability and things they may disregard. Nobody has ever left before so it is all new ground. There isnt a nice clean exit bill. So a negotiation, not a penalty. Article 50: "the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frans2755 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 There's nothing in the treaties to support the idea of a leaving bill. The EU is in a fundamentally unstable dysfunctional state. It needs to integrate into a single federal nation, or revert to a trading bloc before it collapses in a heap of misery. I agree with you that the way you talk we are better off without the UK in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Because they have discretion as to what they will seek to put forward as a liability and things they may disregard. Nobody has ever left before so it is all new ground. There isnt a nice clean exit bill. Something the lawyers can argue over and the diplomats compromise on. If they dont come to an agreement then they will both lose. Where does the 'penalising' come into it?,that's what I asked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I agree with you that the way you talk we are better off without the UK in the EU. Yes we would be better off away from the corporate lobbying that influences the EU. Until you consider the alternative on offer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frans2755 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yes we would be better off away from the corporate lobbying that influences the EU. Until you consider the alternative on offer..... The alternative being the corporate lobbying of the British parlement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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