apelike Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 You are trying to tell me the daily mail isn't right wing? Really? Come on...... Anyway, over to the Sun which apparently photoshopped Gina Millers picture on the front page to make her skin appear darker. This is getting disgusting. A good conspiracy theory especially as it was The Sun but I doubt it was photoshopped and more probably due to not using a flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 You are trying to tell me the daily mail isn't right wing? Really? Come on...... Anyway, over to the Sun which apparently photoshopped Gina Millers picture on the front page to make her skin appear darker. This is getting disgusting. ---------- Post added 04-11-2016 at 11:13 ---------- Remember how many times the argument was we didn't need a plan that the vote was simply about leaving. This was used over and over by Brexiters in response to criticism of there being no plan. How many times Cameron was attacked for not having a plan? Now you are saying there was a clear and solid plan on both sides all along and it was hard Brexit? Seriously? There was no real plan. But the broad question of the type of Brexit was clear. That's not the same thing. As I've told you many times, I find this right/left terminology all but useless. The mail is for people who worry about immigration and such. They appear amongst supporters of both sides of the house, but are probably more numerous on the Labour sides supporters. The justification for labelling the DM as "right wing" is quite different from that for labelling Labour supporters as "left wing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 You are trying to tell me the daily mail isn't right wing? Really? Come on...... They are populist, that term seems to be growing of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 The writing on the bus stated: "We send the EU £350 million a week, lets fund our NHS instead. Vote leave." I dont read that as a promise. You might get off on a technicality claiming the wording on the bus wasn't a promise but this image is unambiguous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 You might get off on a technicality claiming the wording on the bus wasn't a promise but this image is unambiguous. Wasn't that denounced by the leave campaign the day after it was shown and the reason the bus stated differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayfly182 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 As I've told you many times, I find this right/left terminology all but useless. You'd probably find it more useful if you didn't just decide that everyone you hated belonged to the same politial box and work backwards from there trying to defend it. A few days ago I watched in amusement and horror as you tried to define the nazis as left wing, showing a complete lack of understanding of the history of the nazis and of why they're seen as far right, apparently just to try and compare them with the current Labour party who you clearly hate. Perhaps if you stopped misusing logic this way you'd be less confused about the left/right terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Wasn't that denounced by the leave campaign the day after it was shown and the reason the bus stated differently? I think the word you were looking for was retracted rather than denounced. If there was any such retraction, I didn't see it. But then that's just a result of a classic deliberately misleading PR tactic. Make a claim that gets lots of headlines then quietly retract it later. Everyone remembers the original claim and you get to claim you didn't really mean it so it doesn't count. The fact is, the promise in that image and the wording on the bus were designed to leave people with the impression that the NHS would be getting and extra £360m a week if we left the EU. Arguing that you retracted it, that the wording didn't actually mean what people thought it meant or that people should have known it was false after your opponents debunked it is just trying to explain away a deliberate attempt to mislead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) You'd probably find it more useful if you didn't just decide that everyone you hated belonged to the same politial box and work backwards from there trying to defend it. A few days ago I watched in amusement and horror as you tried to define the nazis as left wing, showing a complete lack of understanding of the history of the nazis and of why they're seen as far right, apparently just to try and compare them with the current Labour party who you clearly hate. Perhaps if you stopped misusing logic this way you'd be less confused about the left/right terminology. They're socialists. Socialists are "left wing". If you want to join that discussion it's still open. The problem is with socialists trying to distance themselves from the horrific past of their ideology. I hate people who are themselves hateful. I don't hate socialists as a whole, I just disagree with them. You and I probably hate all the same people. I just have a problem with the term "far right" not because I like the people at whom it is directed, but because I think it's a misnomer and as such it's misleading as to the nature of such people. Edited November 4, 2016 by unbeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 A good conspiracy theory especially as it was The Sun but I doubt it was photoshopped and more probably due to not using a flash. Ok then, they picked a picture of her looking darker than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santo Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Ok then, they picked a picture of her looking darker than normal. Like Time did with the OJ picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts