Gamston Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Immigration was not the only reason people voted to leave. Personally I was fed up of hearing over rhe years that we couldn't do things because of EU regulations. Yes, that excuse will not be able to be used after 2019. ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 12:50 ---------- So what question should be asked in a referendum? ‘Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 ‘Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?’ Perhaps if it was asked again at the next general election, it wouldnt be an anti-Government vote? ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 12:56 ---------- What harm could it do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Perhaps if it was asked again at the next general election, it wouldnt be an anti-Government vote? ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 12:56 ---------- What harm could it do? The decision has already been made. What on earth do you think all those people were doing on June 23rd, when they visited their local polling station ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 yup we'll all be poor losers when it all kicks in, and those with not much will lose most I think you will find its the opposite in that those who have little will lose less. The main people moaning about Brexit are not those without but those with as its them that will lose the most. I don't see many poor people moaning and yet according to many it was mainly the poor uneducated that voted leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I think you will find its the opposite in that those who have little will lose less. The main people moaning about Brexit are not those without but those with as its them that will lose the most. I don't see many poor people moaning and yet according to many it was mainly the poor uneducated that voted leave. I disagree, when i mentioned the poor losing most, i meant it as in prices rise rents rise taxes rise etc etc the poor are the ones that are only just bobbing above water, take miself, im only just bobbing above water, wage aint going up anytime soon, apart from the odd minimum wage rise, but as everything else goes up that doesnt really help by much. further increases in prices, taxes etc and im going to start to be smothered. As for your other point, i know plenty of folks round here that voted out precisely for the immigration and Anti EU hysteria and tbh most of em are in the same boat as me, if not worse. i know one neighbour shes very anti immigrant, none in the family work, the local post office has just closed and she finds it harder (not driving) to get to another village to go to the post office for money) Like on here they view immigrants as taking our jobs, cash, NHS etc etc etc just like during other times of hardship, turn to the scare tactics of the right and blame others for their own woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 The decision has already been made. What on earth do you think all those people were doing on June 23rd, when they visited their local polling station ? Many have asked them what they voted for, and what Brexit means, its a pile of different stuff. If we still have major immigration, will they still vote leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petminder Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Perhaps if it was asked again at the next general election, it wouldnt be an anti-Government vote? ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 12:56 ---------- What harm could it do? I remember there being people that were anti EU but also anti Tory, they voted remain despite wanting to leave the EU because they didn't trust the Tory. If Labour had been in power they would have voted leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Why do you think that ? ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 11:51 ---------- I have great hopes for Theresa May as a thoughtful leader that will not jump into making knee jerk decisions. I also appreciate that there is a legion of advisors and committees that influence politicians. I must admit that no previous leaders name immediately springs to mind. Who would be your choice ? None of them. They nearly all at the behest of big business, thatcher laid waste to great swathes of industrial heartlans, tony blair then alienated them (oh and illegal wars). Gordon Brown had the chance to reform the banking sector and blew it. All of them took us further into europe with little or no consultation. EU was a saftey net for workers rights and the environment. Thats all going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 So you think all those who voted to leave wanted to plunge the country into disaster ? Try optimism and confidence in our elected leaders instead pessimism. A lot of Leavers were willing to pay a price to keep the so called foreigners out. Hilariously though it is going to backfire spectacularly when they end up significantly poorer as a result. ---------- Post added 25-11-2016 at 14:34 ---------- But, but,but, "The 'Brexit dividend' DOES exist: Britain to benefit from extra £32BILLION when it leaves the EU and stops sending cash to Brussels Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3969844/The-Brexit-dividend-DOES-exist-Britain-set-benefit-extra-32bn-leaves-EU-Gove-MPs-demanding-money-poured-NHS.html#ixzz4R1AQND6v I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. We will save £32bn in terms of not sending the money to Brussels. But our LOSS due to Brexit is £58.7bn over the same period. So we have a net loss of £26.7bn. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 So you think all those who voted to leave wanted to plunge the country into disaster ? Try optimism and confidence in our elected leaders instead pessimism. I don't think they wanted to, I just think that they were mislead into doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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