unbeliever Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 If people are going to continue to refer to bigoted socialists using the highly misleading euphemism "far right", do please remember that's what it is and don't fall into the trap of thinking you're talking about especially committed small government or capitalism supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyR Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Where were you in the 1930s, I bet you don't even remember the 1980s ? I don't think you or anyone can comprehend any likeness today to the 1930s ..... never heard such rubbish ! The next Hitler is already around pal, take a look at old Vladimir Putin, are you ready to fight him ...... I'll bet your not ! So you have to have been alive in a period of time to have knowledge of it? It is possible to read books you know. This is what a historian does, I'm not suggesting I'm one of those but they do exist and the likenesses can be drawn. And then you basically agree with my point by saying vladimir putin is the next hitler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 So you have to have been alive in a period of time to have knowledge of it? It is possible to read books you know. This is what a historian does, I'm not suggesting I'm one of those but they do exist and the likenesses can be drawn. And then you basically agree with my point by saying vladimir putin is the next hitler... So you can read, well so can a lot of people, drawing analogies still does not mean you can compare time periods so far apart, the world is completely different now to what it was in the 1930s, and the fact that I stated Mr Putin was around now is not exactly agreeing with your point about Trump paving the way for anyone, unless you think Trump will pave the way for Putin. Putin is paving his own way at the moment, and to be honest Timmy I don't think I would agree with you about much at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeMaquis Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 One of the reasons I voted Brexit was that the weak , sick and disabled ( often through no fault of their own) go to the back of the queue when it comes to benefits . The figure quoted recently for councils to support a young Syrian ( or whatever) migrant is at least £40,000 a year , up to possibly £133k. Given that you're a member of UKIP whose sole purpose to exist is withdrawal from the EU that's more than a bit dishonest. But what Syrian refugees have to do with the EU is a mystery. Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland have all taken more refugees per head of population that we have. ---------- Post added 28-10-2016 at 12:04 ---------- The next Hitler is already around pal, take a look at old Vladimir Putin, are you ready to fight him ...... I'll bet your not ! Neither are UKIP who operate as the British branch of the Putin Fan Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Given that you're a member of UKIP whose sole purpose to exist is withdrawal from the EU that's more than a bit dishonest. But what Syrian refugees have to do with the EU is a mystery. Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland have all taken more refugees per head of population that we have. Noway is engaging in behaviour that were the UK to do we would be heavily criticised by some as being far right wing. Oslo announced in January of this year that it would deport anybody that came to Norway from a safe country. Syrian refugee's they deported had cycled across the Russian border into Norway, and so they were deported back to Russia. This is despite them not speaking a word of Russian, and the fact that they did originate in Syria. Switzerland is also engaging in behaviour that would make the more left wing media in this country scream blue murder. Switzerland are seizing assets from refugees in order to recover some of the cost of housing them. If a refugee gains the right to stay and work in Switzerland, the government will take 10% of their pay for up to 10 years. The UK is nowhere near become a 'far right' nation. Edited October 28, 2016 by Robin-H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santo Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I don't know what the politicians can do because frankly the banks are 'too big to fail' and so are the corporations, and too all powerful. I was also reading somewhere that all the thousands of news/Media outlets across the world are actually owned by just three corporations. Far too much power in far too few hands. I don't want an uprising, but when democracy fails that's what tends to happen.. Where exactly did you read that? Do you have a source? For the UK we have News International (Rupert Murdoch): Sun, Times, Sunday Times, News of the World Trinity Mirror plc: Mirror, Sunday Mirror, People, Daily Record Northern & Shell (Richard Desmond): Express, Express on Sunday, Star Daily Mail and General Trust: Mail, Mail on Sunday Telegraph Group (Barclay brothers): Daily Telegraph, Sunday Telegraph, The Business Guardian Media Group (Scott Trust): Guardian, Observer Pearson plc: Financial Times That's the newspapers. On TV there are the normal channels; BBC, ITV, C4 and Channel 5 who all have their own news programmes. Then Sky News (Murdoch) and CNN (Turner Broadcasting System). So for the UK alone that's more than 3 ain't it? I think you need to read less nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookedspire Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Do you think that UKIP has become a nothing party their aim of getting the UK out of the EU is done while they did have a few policies it's aim was simply to get the UK out of the EU. The party was popular with BNP followers though Britain First didn't think they were right enough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Do you think that UKIP has become a nothing party their aim of getting the UK out of the EU is done while they did have a few policies it's aim was simply to get the UK out of the EU. The party was popular with BNP followers though Britain First didn't think they were right enough for them. The BNP are socialists as are most organisations described as far right. UKIP are not socialists and to give them their due have been very proactive in excluding BNP members and the like from joining. But let's not let facts get in the way of the standard leftist false narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I was also reading somewhere that all the thousands of news/Media outlets across the world are actually owned by just three corporations. Do you believe everything you read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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